Thursday, October 18, 2012


Do you believe it's possible to have and maintain honesty and integrity, and still have a successful career in politics?


  1. Most voters don't want to be told the truth. They want to be told whatever they want to hear... like the government's going to keep them safe, and take care of them...

  2. Yes.

    Or it used to be. But back then, politicians didn't have campaign managers, focus groups, and speechwriters.

  3. I say no -- now.

    I'm not quite sure when "now" began, though.

  4. The moment that politicians and elected officials recognized that pandering to special interest groups would yeild big results it was all down hill from there.

    Remember LBJ? And he wasn't the first... Maybe among thew worse however.

  5. Les, have you heard Robert Caro on LBJ? Caro's a prizewinnng historian who talks with areally thick New Yawk acent, but like Doris Kearns Goodwin, who shares the accent, he is a highly respected scholar.

    With his background you'd think he;d a be a big time leftist, BUT, he has nothing good to say about LBJ.

    If I heard him right the last time he was interviewed on C-Span, Caro has written a three volume biographical analysis of old Jugears, as I used to call him. Apparently he was even more disgusting and treacherous than my rock-ribbed Republican family thought he was at the time he was in power.

    ~ FT

  6. I certainly will have to check Carl out as I know little about his work or views.

  7. The answer is: RON PAUL.

    (In other words: "Yes, but it's terribly rare.")

    ~ D-FensDogg
    'Loyal American Underground'

  8. You're right, of course, Stephen.

    In a way Ron Paul could be said to be the Jesus Christ of our time. Like Christ, he has told us the Truth, and instead of thanking Him for it, today's version of the Scribes and Pharisees continue to serve the corrupt Establishment of which they are a part.

    And all we like sheep follow the paths of least resistance -- over the cliff -- as we've always done with very few exceptions.

    Seems to be a sort of megacycle in human affairs, doesn't it?

    ~ FreeThinke

  9. Ron Paul should have ran as an independent third party candidate. He is by far more libertarian than he is rEpublican.

    We do have GJ who beats hell out of either Obama or Mittens. But as you pointed out FT the nation is content following the lead lemming over the cliff.

  10. Well, Les, as I've already told you, I felt as you do now, back in 1992, and voted for Ross Perot along with many others who felt The First Bush was wishy washy. In fact most of my closest and must trusted friends followed that route, and look what it got us -- BILL KLINTOON and HER HEINOUS.

    The more I see of Mitt Romney the better I like him.

    The more I see of Obama the more I despise him.

    Given the experience with Ross Perot and what a "spoiler" can do to the process, I see no other choice but to vote for Romney.

    It will NOT be for "the lesser of two evils." It will be for GOOD as OPPOSED to evil.

    Romney is a GOOD man. Paul RYAN is a good man. The more the D'Rats attack them with their petty, spiteful, inconsequential, conjured up, fake partisan objections the better the two Republican candidates look.

    R & R may not be as RADICAL as you and I would like, but they're a HELLUVALOT BETTER than team O-BITE-ME.

    Sorry, Les, I don't want to offend you, but a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama, and I couldn't countenance doing that, myself. I'm a born-again pragmatist after the experience with Ross Perot.

    ~ FreeThinke

  11. Look, Florida is a battleground state, so I understand "why" you feel that you have to support the midget candidate... but Maryland is NOT a battleground state. There is no way in hell that a Republican will EVER win Maryland. And THAT fact frees ME to vote for the BEST possible candidate, and NOT the lesser Weevil...

  12. You make and excellent case for preserving the Elcetoral College, Thersites.

    Too bad you didn't call in to counteract Jonathan Turley who was inveighing against it!

    Of course, I think it would be best if each state got ONE electoral vote. In that way the TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY of each state would be better protected. Geographical AREA and natural RESOURCES -- or alck thereof -- count as much as PEOPLE most of whim aren't a worth a warm bucket of spit when you get right down to it

    Those who breed the most tend to be the LEAST qualified to lead.

    ~ FT

  13. That doesn't bode well for Romney... ;)



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