Thursday, July 24, 2014

Courtesy of WAYLON


TWA family member cites "Internet conspiracies"

Producer: "One or more ordnance explosions 
outside the aircraft caused the crash"

"TWA Flight 800" will premiere July 17, 
the anniversary of the crash

NTSB investigator insists evidence showed 
an explosion inside the fuel tank

 Anderson Cooper: 
'TWA Flight 800 Was SHOT DOWN'

Anderson Cooper

[Emphasis added by FT]

July 22, 2014

Some truths CNN reveals only accidentally. One such truth Anderson Cooper shared on the night of July 17. In speaking about the shoot down of Malaysian airliner MH 17 earlier that day, Cooper referred back to “July 17, 1996, when TWA Flight 800 was shot down off the coast of Long Island in New York.”

See it here:

TWA Flight 800 was fresh on Cooper’s mind. Two days earlier, Cooper hosted a CNN special report on the subject, “Witnessed: The Crash of TWA Flight 800.” To understand the depth of media-government complicity, it is useful to compare “Witnessed” with two prior videos.

One is the ironically titled, “No Survivors: Why TWA 800 Could Happen Again.” CNN created this special report for the tenth anniversary of the crash in 2006. The second is a fifteen-minute video produced by the CIA in 1997 that we will call “Zoom Climb.”

“Zoom Climb,” the theatrical highlight of the FBI investigation, was designed to negate the stubborn testimony of the eyewitnesses. An animated sequence in “Zoom Climb” shows an internal fuel tank explosion blowing the nose off the 747. According to the video's narration, TWA 800 then "pitched up abruptly and climbed several thousand feet from its last recorded altitude of about 13,800 feet to a maximum altitude of about 17,000 feet."

This rocketing aircraft was alleged to look like a missile and to have confused the eyewitnesses.  This animation was essential to close the investigation. Without this zoom climb scenario, the FBI had no way to explain what hundreds of official eyewitnesses had actually seen.

In the [second] animated sequence created for the 2006 “No Survivors,” however, CNN completely eliminated the zoom climb from its explosion scenario. A year ago, I addressed this discrepancy when I appeared on CNN’s “New Day” program with the producer of “No Survivors,” Jim Polk. Polk, who spoke before me, implied that there was but a single eyewitness, a helicopter pilot who said “he did see a missile before the explosion.”

I countered, “Well, unlike what Jim says, there were 270 eyewitnesses to a missile strike, 96 of them, this is FBI eyewitnesses, saw it from the horizon ascend all the way up to the plane.”

I then asked Polk, “Why did you eliminate the zoom climb if the CIA -- and what was the CIA doing involved in this in the first place -- if the CIA used that expressly to discredit the eyewitnesses?

Polk admitted the CIA zoom climb was “controversial” and conceded that CNN removed it because “there's no supporting evidence for the CIA's animation.” In “No Survivors,” however, Polk did not bother even to acknowledge the controversy, namely that the CIA had created a bogus animation to discredit the very real testimony of hundreds of eyewitnesses, and CNN knew it. “Controversial” does not do this outrage justice.

Aware, perhaps, that some viewers caught the discrepancy, “Witnessed,” split the difference between the CIA’s zoom climb and the perfectly flat trajectory of “No Survivors.” CNN did so by showing an animation produced by the NTSB three years after the CIA video to smooth out some of the absurdities in “Zoom Climb.”

In this animation, Flight 800 rises gently for about 1500 feet, corkscrews in the sky in great sweeping loops, then noses over and falls more or less straight down. Like “No Survivors,” however, “Witnessed” does not alert the viewer to the inconsistency among these videos, an inconsistency that reveals the rank dishonesty of both the CIA and NTSB productions.

 “Witnessed” did, however, add some dollops of truth to the official media position. One had to do with the testimony of pilot David McClaine who witnessed the crash from an Eastwinds airliner about three thousand feet above TWA Flight 800 and some twenty miles away.

In “No Survivors,” CNN uses his testimony to support the government position. The network quotes McClaine as saying, “I did not see any missile at all.”

In fact, McClaine’s full testimony made hash out of the government position.  When a few honest members of the NTSB witness group finally got to question the CIA analysts responsible for the animation in 1999, they focused on McLaine's testimony. They did so because his testimony refuted the CIA theory.

"If [TWA 800] had ascended," Robert Young of the NTSB witness group told the CIA analysts during this interview, "[McLaine] would have been concerned because it ascended right through his altitude." When a CIA analyst tried to deflect the question, Young continued. "I think [McClaine] would have noticed [the climb]," he said sarcastically. "Your analysis has it zooming above his altitude."
In “Witnessed,” CNN allows McLaine to make the case that when he saw the explosion, “[TWA 800] went down, not up. . . . The wings fell right off the airplane right away. So how is it going to climb, or what if it had no wings?” McLaine also conceded that a missile “could have come from the other side of the airplane,” but from his position above TWA 800, he did not see it.

Young and his colleagues also grilled the CIA analysts about just how many people actually saw the purported zoom climb. “That is something that a few eyewitnesses saw,” said Analyst 1. “The guy on the bridge saw that.” The CIA, in fact, built its animation around this one individual.

On July 30, 1996, Mike Wire, a millwright who observed events from a bridge in Westhampton, had told an FBI agent exactly what he had seen, specifically “a white light that was traveling skyward from the ground at approximately a 40 degree angle. . . . the white light ‘zig zagged’ as it traveled upwards, and at the apex of its travel the white light “arched over” and disappeared from Wire’s view.” After the light disappeared, the FBI 302 continues, Wire “saw an orange light that appeared to be a fireball.”

In “Zoom Climb,” the narrator says of Wire’s testimony, “The white light the eyewitness saw was very likely the aircraft very briefly ascending and arching over after it exploded rather than a missile attacking the aircraft.”

To make its theory work, the CIA animation converted Wire’s “40 degree” climb to one of roughly seventy or eighty degrees. It reduced the smoke trail from three dimensions, south and east “outward from the beach,” to a small, two-dimensional blip far offshore. Most noticeably, it fully ignored Wire’s claim that the projectile ascended “skyward from the ground” and placed his first sighting twenty degrees above the horizon, exactly where Flight 800 would have been.
Curiously, however, the CIA narrator repeats Wire’s claim that the projectile “zig zagged,” although neither the CIA nor the NTSB animation shows the crippled plane in anything but a perfectly smooth, elliptical ascent.

In trying to reconcile these discrepancies, CIA Analyst I told the NTSB group that when the FBI “reinterviewed” Wire, he changed his story, admitting that, yes, “the light did appear in the sky.” Said Analyst I, “Now, when the FBI told us that, we got even more comfortable with our theory.”

For “No Survivors,” CNN did not bother to interview Wire. For “Witnessed,” however, a CNN producer traveled to Wire’s Pennsylvania home and interviewed him on camera. As Wire told the producer, “I was a witness to Flight TWA 800. Yes, I do believe I saw a missile.” Wire then described events almost exactly as he told the FBI in his original interview. The animation in “Zoom Climb,” he said on air, “clearly did not match anything that I witnessed.”

Unfortunately, CNN chose not to show what Wire also told the producer, and it was something of a bombshell: there was no second interview. The CIA and/or FBI concocted that interview out of whole cloth. Wire spoke to the producer at length about how the government manufactured second interviews for several key witnesses.

When I appeared on “New Day” with Jim Polk, I spoke briefly about one of these eyewitnesses, FBI Witness #73. An aviation buff, in her original interview she told the FBI how she watched a “red streak” with a “light gray smoke trail” move up towards the airliner, and then go “past the right side and above the aircraft before arcking [sic] back down toward the aircrafts [sic] right wing.” She even reported the actual break-up sequence before the authorities figured it out on their own.

In her alleged second interview, #73 confessed to drinking several "Long Island Ice Teas," and these impaired her judgment. 

In real life, she doesn't drink, did not even know what a Long Island Ice Tea was, and, as in Wire's case, did not give a second interview. She only learned of the fraud a few years ago.

The CNN producers, Cooper included, know all of this. It may account for why “Witnessed” finally called out FBI honcho Jim Kallstrom on one of his many egregious lies. While the viewer watches a clip of Kallstrom at a hearing, saying, “There were about 200 people that saw events in the sky that they described. None of which described a missile,” the camera scans several FBI witness statements and highlights the word “missile” in each.

Given what he knew, it is understandable that Anderson Cooper would say “TWA Flight 800 was shot down.” That very day the subtitle of “No Survivors” proved prophetic, “Why TWA 800 Could Happen Again.” Needless to say, Cooper’s flirtation with the truth could not be allowed to stand. He came back groveling a half hour or so later.

I just want to correct something I said regarding the plane crash, earlier I said that today was the anniversary of flight TWA 800, crashing off the coast of Long Island in 1996. I believe I said that it was shot down, obviously the government said it was a center fuel tank explosion. Although some people indicated they saw a rocket, there was no evidence of that. It was ruled to be a center fuel tank explosion, so I apologize for misspeaking about that anniversary.

No evidence? And now our media are criticizing Russia for covering up the shoot down of MH 17?


  1. Calling Dr. Freud...
    Calling Dr. Freud...

    Anderson, your slip is showing!

  2. Thersites, are you ten years old?

    Anderson made a mistake - or maybe he really believes it and just let it slip. Whatever the case, no tangible evidence ever emerged the TWA flight was shot down, and no one ever took credit for it.


  3. READ the ARTICLE, Jersey. You might then change your tune -- IF you have a modicum of sense that is, which oft seems dubious.

    I remember this incdent verfy well. Nine other than Pierre SALINGER supported the eyewitnesses virtual certainty that a ground-to-air missile rose in a 40º arc leaving a streak of flame behind it JUST before the plane exploded into a FIREBALL and dropped in burning fragments into the Atlantic Ocean off the south shore of Long Island.

    I saw the initial reports, and became highly suspicious when the Clinton Administration IMMEDIATELY -- seemingly within SECONDS -- loudy issued a disclaimer telling us it could not POSSIBLY have been a terrorist attack, which of course it was.

    WHY our government ALWAYS seems to LIE to us, I'd like to know. It is NOT a partisan issue, except to dunderheads who refuse to let go of outmoded, irrelevant paradigms.

    Dn't you want to know WHY we are always being HAD?


  4. Off topic, but very Important..Shocking Report-- Rick Perry said that Illegal’s are Behind 3,000 Homicides & 8,000
    Sexual Assaults in Texas since 2008! And that dońt even include the wrong-way fender benders and Drunk while drivings in which no one died.
    And this is just coming to light now??? It seems everything must to get to the crisis mode before anyone recognizes it, or after the Demorats get caught covering it up...What in the hell is wrong with these “Compassionate!” people?

    -------->Sarah Bernhardt

  5. READ the ARTICLE, Ducky. You might then change your tune -- IF you have a modicum of sense that is, which oft seems dubious.

    I remember this incdent verfy well. None other than Pierre SALINGER, JFK's former press secretary, supported the eyewitnesses' virtual certainty that a ground-to-air missile rose at a 40º arc leaving a streak of flame behind it JUST before the plane exploded into a FIREBALL and dropped in burning fragments into the Atlantic Ocean off the south shore of Long Island.

    [NOTE: Pierre Salinger DIED very shortly after this incident, which may -- or may not -- have been a coincidence. One can never be sure in the murky world of Global Power Politics as played by The Oligarchs].

    I saw the initial reports, and became highly suspicious when the Clinton Administration IMMEDIATELY -- seemingly within SECONDS -- loudy issued a disclaimer telling us it could not POSSIBLY have been a terrorist attack, which of course it was.

    WHY our government ALWAYS seems to LIE to us, I'd like to know. It is NOT a partisan issue, except to dunderheads who refuse to let go of outmoded, irrelevant paradigms.

    Don't you want to know WHY we are always being HAD by the powers that be?

  6. Bette Noire said

    Hey, T-Man. Anderson Cooper's slip couldn't possibly be showing. I happen to know he always goes commando.

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  8. Bette Noire said

    Any reason anyone should believe Rick Perry? Isn't he just another cheap politico? Those types will say anything they think audiences want to hear. Besides he dyes his hair, and those thick black glasses he's started to wear to try to make himself look smart are just a prop. Nothing in them but window glass.

  9. Bette Noire said

    Obama's pretty bad, but anyone with any sense knows that Abe Lincoln was the worst president we've ever had. He destroyed the consitution by overriding it to get his way, and then went on to kill 625,000 Americans. Sofar as I know the First Black President hasn't killed anyone, unless you count the hangovers from Bush's stupid war.

  10. Why not believe Rick perry, at least he’s doing something about this ridicules situation. Like activating 1,000 National Guard troops to the Texas Mexican Boarder. What is Obama doing to protect us from these illegal aliens, drug smugglers, criminal gangs

  11. There were lots of witnesses. And if you need a cockamany story to 'splain that people didn't see what they saw... then you've got a REAL credibility problem.

    RULING OUT a missile "seemed" to have been the NTSB investigation's mission.... NOT revealing what really happened. :P

  12. Thanks, Thersites. Your last remark was dead on target -- exactly the reason I posted this item.

    I still would like really to KNOW why our government seems ALWAYS to want to deceive us?

    I don't think it's partisan thing by the way, since BOTH parties divide the guilt equally. And THAT is why I subscribe to the notion of a Shadow Government run by "The Oligarchs" who pull all the strings from behind the scenes and remain accountable to no one.

  13. Sarah B. sorry, but you'll have to go. I don't like troublemakers, and that is exactly what you appear to be. Poisonous gossip about other bloggers, even when factual, is not encouraged here. No one likes a tattletale, and no one likes a "scold" either.


    Bette Noire, your name shows me you have a good sense of humor. I ejoy your outspokenness, even I can't agree with everything you say.

  14. DebDude, I agree that at least Rick Perry is trying to DO something definite, but I have doubts about his viability as a candidate, because of the frankly disgraceful performance he put on in the last attempts to win the GOP nomination. I felt embarrassed for him and by him during those depressing debates.

    I'm afraid given the divisiveness within the party, and generally poor performance of Republican wannabes, that only a b-u-l-l-e-t will be able to stop Hellary from winning by a landslide in 2016. Never mind that she looks like a living portrait of Halitosis on the Hoof. She'll be a shoo in. Alack and Alas! the country is THAT far gone.

  15. I just watched a special report on CNN within the last few days that supports exactly the idea expounded in this excellent article.

    One clue to the BIG LIE that's touted officially is that over time as the investigation takes place over a four year period the missile/explosion theory is never dismissed immediately but slowly eroded as time goes on by the "investigators". Such things as the eye witnesses to the event seeing something going from surface to air before seeing the plane explode and then discrediting them and finally ignoring their accounts, the message that comes out later about evidence of explosive substance trace material being found in the cabin of the air craft then being "refuted" with the "admission", that, yes, actually there could well have been tracers of explosive material—the airplane had been used to train explosive sniffing dogs in Nevada sometime immediately prior to the explosive event.

    Finally there were charges that the black box flight recorded was missing some few seconds of vital information. Of course, the answer to that dilemma was that the flight recorder had been severely "damaged", which, of course, it was. The black box shown had been definitely "traumatized" (torn open).

    Too many "coincidences" that all eventually lead to the predetermined conclusion decided upon by the investigation. What are the odds all those coincidences could just oddly happen with this particular event?

  16. To resolve the more recent incident of who shot down MH 17 just release all control tower communication with MH 17 as it crossed Ukraine air space. Was the plane directed to take the route it did?

    Remember the Lusitania ...

    Now with that we now know who knew, what and when. Could even happen again under similar circumstances of leading the world into a greater conflagration.

  17. Great interview with former NTSB investigator Hank Hughes expounding on the differences between the "official version" of the Flight 800 disaster and the real version as witnessed by him during the investigation and now asking that the truth come out:

  18. Waylon,

    It's good to see you. Thank you for your contributions.

    I think the issue of Government-Media Collusion and Complicity in DECEIVING the public ought to be of paramount importance to EVERYONE.

    I have never understood why "liberals," so-called, have such BLIND FAITH in Centralized GOVERNMENT Power. Like Thomas Jefferson and the other Founders I have a deep and abiding DISTRUST of entrenched power of ANY kind.

    It isn't CAPITALISM that's at fault, but rather the PERVERSION of it known as CRONY Capitalism, which is, of course, an unholy alliance between huge multinational corporations and government.

    I think "multinational" is the key to what is wrong. These entities have no allegiance to ANY country, but have become a law unto themselves. Their vast wealth and control of natural resources and the means of production worldwide makes it possible for them to BUY just about anyone in Congress, the White House (soon to be known as La Casa Blanca ;-) and most of the judgeships including the Supreme Court.

    Why else would that wolf in sheep's clothing John Roberts have rendered such a tortured rationale for upholding a vile thing like OBAMACARE?

    Undoubtedly, he had his marching orders from "On High."Either that or "they" let him know his wife and little son would meet with a fatal "accident" in the near future if he failed to knuckle uner.

    It HAD to be something like that. There are no other reasonable explanations for why things are as they are. Never mind the endless supply of pre-digested claptrap "LIBERALS" are bound o throw at it.

    Liberals have NOTHING to offer other than the [unfortunately enormous] power of INCESSANT DENIGRATION.

  19. Let me repeat

    Liberals have NOTHING to offer other than the [unfortunately enormous] power of INSULT, REJECTION and INCESSANT DENIGRATION.

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  21. Do we know if there exist top secret documents -- still highly classified -- relating to the crash of TWA 800?

    I do find it difficult in the extreme to discount some of the eye witness testimony.

  22. Good morning, AOW. As I often say, we cannot "KNOW" anything the enemedia does not WANT us to know.

    Here's a little, new-minted jingle about the dangerously seductive, intoxicating, inveitably corrupting nature of POWER.

    Just because you can
    Doesn't mean you should,
    But once within your grasp
    The Reins you tightly clasp
    Make you think you're The Strong Man,
    And after that you'll do
    Only what makes YOU
    Feel good.

  23. FT,
    we cannot "KNOW" anything the enemedia does not WANT us to know


    I'm just wondering if anyone has filed for information via the FOIA.

  24. As Mr. Hughes states in the interview on CNN that it's a matter of "personal integrity", a need to expose the lies and reveal the actual truth of the evidence so that those who do consider blatant outright bold-faced lies a source of what's rotten in the state today, can get a clearer picture of what the hell is going on in this world today.

    Mr. Hughes has way more to lose than any personal gain by speaking out—so I'd salute him on his act of personal courage here.

    Of course, there are the goose-stepping idiots that swallow the "official truth" manufactured by the manipulators with the immediate dismissal that it's "just a conspiracy theory".

  25. FT, here's a significant insight into Malaysian Air MH 17 that may be of interest to you. It's related to this post and seems real enough since it puts the lie to the idea that the plane was brought down by a "Russian Missile"—which seems to have been the concocted story even before the tragic flight hit the ground.



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