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A marketing genuis. Marketing her brand.
ReplyDeleteDamn; America is GREAT!
Careful, Farmer will race in here spewing his halalatosis everywhere...
ReplyDeleteKamal Pasha al Dubloon Attaturk said
DeleteWoud that be a problem for you, or do you jus like to make noise?
What She May Be All About?
ReplyDeleteHerself.
JMJ
If that were true,Jersey, why would she expose herself to possible kidnapping, torture, gang rape, beheading or a ritualized stoning by the raving mad Jihadists?
DeleteShe, apparently, has money, is still physically attractive at age 56 –– something very few women could legitimately claim –– so why in the world would she expose herself to grave danger, contempt and the ridicule of folks like you and Ducky, if she did not believe she was serving a higher purpose than shameless self-promotion?
FreeThinke say:
Delete"so why in the world would she expose herself to grave danger, contempt and the ridicule of folks like you and Ducky, if she did not believe she was serving a higher purpose than shameless self-promotion?"
Answer contained in question. Fame and money people do anything. Look at Clintons.
Cigarette mean man in hat spook truth
I see no equivalence moral or otherwise, between the Clintons and Ms. Geller, Mr. Wang –– or is it Ms –– one can never be sure these days.
DeleteWoman chase fame and money. Jersey man right
DeleteWhat you think don't stuff no wontons.
Delete~~~ Clarabella Pagliaccia ~~~
You sound like a sycophant, FreeThinke. The woman is surrounded by gunmen. She's safe. But she's not accomplishing anything for good.
DeleteJMJ
My vote for marlboro man. Gellar no do nothing good.
DeleteHow many people has the Marlboro Man killed?
DeleteAlmost as many as the the jihadi's Gellar warns against have.
That McJersey man with cigarett in mouth kill people?
DeleteI hope that commenters here actually watch the entire video before commenting. I think that my hope is futile, however.
ReplyDeleteSo many people are "dug in" -- that is, committed to their own cognitive bias -- and would rather believe what someone else has written about Pamela Geller than listen to a speech such as this one.
Watched ---- Listened --- To entire.
DeleteConfirmed initial.
PG is, a excellent at marketing her brand.
Anonymous,
DeletePG is, a excellent at marketing her brand.
I don't object to that. Do you?
More to the point: Is she telling the truth?
Not one iota.
DeleteWhether truth or not, well, it is the brand. Bias knows no boundaries.
Some truth, lots of hyperbole.
More relevant... is there a resolution?
Likely not. Is it possible neither side wants a resolution?
Hunger for power (maybe empire) will drive humanity over the edge.
Hi, AOW. Always glad to see you here. I too had fond hopes that everyone would watch the video, but realized it probably won't happen.
DeleteOnce again the adage holds true.
You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink."
People are so enamored of their prejudices they can't entertain direct evidence that indicates they may be wrong.
I will repeat to "Anonymous" what I said just above to Jersey:
"If your assertion were true, Anonymous, why would Ms Geller expose herself to possible kidnapping, torture, gang rape, beheading or a ritualized stoning by the raving mad Jihadists?
She, apparently, has money, is still physically attractive at age 56 –– something very few women could legitimately claim –– so why in the world would she expose herself to grave danger, unbridled contempt, and the ridicule of folks like you and Ducky, if she did not believe she was serving a higher purpose than shameless self-promotion?"
Her "brand" is the Truth!
DeleteFame... Money
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DeleteBuh bye. Les!
DeleteEvery post could use some halalatosis! :)
ReplyDeleteI thought that was Haram! ;-)
DeleteTo FJ
Delete§:-D=
Somebody make me a haram sammich! I'm hungry! And throw some salafi on in while yer at it.
DeleteSorry to keep repeating myself, but I think that we should be standing up for what we believe in and respect people like Pamela for leading the way. Not like the good little liberal - progressive Muslim sympathizers who just give in to these sons of bitches who are running around the world murdering people for no reason but only because they have their own beliefs and don’t think the same way as these savages do!
ReplyDeleteLets face it, Pamela Geller, is a brave woman and courageous women, who really should not have to be defended by any American, and should be praised by us. Love her or hate her, and I just can’t understand anyone wanting to “hate” her , you have to admit that what she is doing is brave and courageous.
And that she has the courage of her convictions. Pamela Geller is a rare voice of courage, and should be applauded .What she did was to open the eyes of those who would not see.
How many of us, men or women would fight the fight for Free Speech and do it at the risk of his or her life? The truth is, Pamela Geller, is a heroine and a true patriot period!
I think that freedom loving people around the world over owe a debt of gratitude to Pamela Geller for what she did and for the courage she has shown...
Yes, DD, I agree.
DeleteEarlier I likened Ms. Geller to a latter day Paul Revere.
I think the simile may be perfectly apt. Only Time will tell, of course, but by then it will be too late to heed the warning for we will have delivered ourselves into the hands of one of the deadliest enemies Representative Republican Democracy has ever faced.
I am one who believe it is better to be safe than sorry.
I quite disagree.
DeleteThat woman as Paul Revere? What a laugh. Only if you can produce historical documentation that Paul Revere mooned the British monarchy from that church tower.
Kamal Pasha al Dubloon Attaturk said
DeleteBOO!
What she did was to show the world that radical Islam is the problem, Islam is radical Islam. It's not a religion of peace, it's a death cult and oppression over freedom. The West must wake up and fight the Devil. Thank god, there are brave women like Pam Geller who are fighting this fight, there should be more Pam Geller’s in this world and then maybe the world would be a better place..
ReplyDeleteShe showed us dat? We din't know it before?
DeleteWhat rock wuz u hidin under?
Pamela Geller has something that NO liberal or Democratic President besides Harry Truman has, or have ever had.
ReplyDeleteGuts, and Honor.
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ReplyDelete___ OUR BYLAWS ___
DeleteWe welcome Conversation
But without Vituperation.
If your aim is Vilification ––
Other forms of Denigration ––
Unfounded Accusation --
Determined Obfuscation ––
Alienation with Self-Justification ––
We WILL use COMMENT ERADICATION.
We also discourage generalized bitchiness, and effusions marked primarily by contempt, unless WE happen to find them amusing or instructive [rare!].
I tried, but I couldn't take the ear bleed, and I kept wanting to poke my eyes out.
ReplyDeleteGod almighty in heave. Anybody got any brain bleach?
That's 40 minutes of my life sucked out and gone. A few gin and tonics would have improved this post, or maybe some bikini babes like you did a few posts back.
Truth? Yeah, sure, but I don't know what makes it any better braying out the pie hole of a horse face.
That needleman fellow is a cad.
DeleteI love strong, forceful women. I wonder if Pamela has strong hands. They look strong, non?
The high heels raise her derriere nicely. I imagine them to be tall and spikey, causing sword stabs of sweet pain on a prostrate naked man's back.
I could totally see her wielding a whip...
Excuse me, I must go to the toilet.
The strongest thing about that video woman is her thick New York Jewish accent. OY!
DeleteWalther von der Vogelweide
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DeletePam Geller knows her audience, or at least the audience that her message will resonate with. From the video it's evident that her audience (or market) would include acolytes of Ayn Rand (her suggestion that man should live life for himself first and foremost). She appeals to the present or former participants of Front Page Magazine by dropping the overused term from that site "Asshats" to demonize and ridicule those who might have the temerity of oppose her. Also evident is a phony attempt to to drag the extinct Ottoman Empire into today's world conflict by waving an Armenian flag ... attempting to appeal to that she must consider this equivalent to the more widely known Holocaust.
ReplyDeletePam Geller overstates the obvious. Anybody that today only accepts at face value and without question the events and propaganda campaign imposed on a daily basis since the infamous date 9/11, 2001 is likely already brain dead.
Waylon,
DeleteWell said. She may be speaking the truth, but she's a trite and panderish with all the subtlety of a circus barker.
Ayn Rand was a mean, nasty egomaniac who wrote dense diatribes poorly disguised as novels.
If she had her way, the Zuckerbergs and Soros's would own everything, and the rest of us would be living like 14th century peasants in shacks, working ourselves to a death at thirty-five under the lash of the Obamas, Bushs and Clintons.
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DeleteThan you, SF.
DeleteI admit to being a former FPMer, an Ayn Rand acolyte and even a one time admirer of Pam Geller. And apparently Pam Geller hasn't evolved over time and still expects the old schtick to still fly ... maybe it still does with a certain mentality.
Amen, Waylon. To quote Professor Al, it's going to take a higher level of thinking to get us out of the messes we've gotten ourselves into.
DeleteYou mean Winston Churchills?
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ReplyDeleteInteresting to watch various commenters here expressing such animosity toward Pamela Geller (emphases mine).
ReplyDeleteI'd like to share with all of you these two WaPo letters to the editor:
In dismissing Pamela Geller and her Muhammad cartoon contest, Kathleen Parker took a back seat in defending free speech, her protestations to the contrary notwithstanding [“Artist provocateur,” op-ed, May 10].
Ms. Parker deferred to what the literary organization PEN America called “the assassin’s veto,” which makes gunmen bent on killing those who offend them de facto arbiters of taste and what constitutes appropriate subjects of commentary.
But the First Amendment isn’t about good or bad taste in speech; it’s about speech, without qualification and no matter the subject. Tiptoeing around fanatical sensibilities as if walking on eggshells enables aggressors and tyrants.
American history is a who’s who of confrontational provocateurs whose rhetoric was considered low-brow for the time. Applying Ms. Parker’s standards to Thomas Paine, Samuel Adams or Patrick Henry, all of whom picked a fight with King George III, would suggest they were responsible for British aggression during the American Revolution.
Ms. Parker did a stellar job of condemning Ms. Geller’s abrasive point of view but a poor one of defending to the death her right to express it.
Scott St. Clair, Belleville, N.J.
(to be continued in next comment)
Next letter:
DeleteThough the Islamic State may not have prompted the attack against a cartoon contest of the prophet Muhammad, it’s useful for the group to make others (and us) think it did. The existence of home-grown terrorists causes more fear, even if there’s no shred of a connection.
Americans’ devotion to the First Amendment already suffers. Pundits question how far we should express free speech involving Islam. Some attack organizer Pamela Geller as a person who incited attack, simply by having the cartoon contest. Her contest was much milder than the drawings published in the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo. The difference between Ms. Geller and Charlie Hebdo: Charlie Hebdo was of the left. Ms. Geller is of the right. But there is no “Je suis Pamela” for Ms. Geller.
This change of attitude toward the First Amendment has split conservatives, which is much more troubling. The Islamic State surely loves how this works, for if its members can force us to be the least bit less American, censoring ourselves and weakening ties to the First Amendment, they win.
Diane Joy Baker, Cincinnati
Thank you for sharing those letters, AOW. They are very revealing.
DeleteNow, about self-promotion....
ReplyDeleteFirst let me state that I am no devotee of Ayn Rand.
Many an invention or work of art sprang from self-promotion. Furthermore, to a certain extent, most of us are self-promoters.
I agree. I've often been accused of being "bumptious," a "stinking showoff," a "conceited ass," and all the rest, because I hold strong views often expressed with unbridled vehemence, and the unmitigated gall to share my satirical verse, bits of uncurbed doggerel, and occasionally a serious original poem or two. I am also ridiculed, and even despised, for using an exceptionally wide vocabulary while expressing myself in proper English.
DeleteSo what?
"I am what I am and I don't give a damn," what others may think of me.
An extraordinarily unpleasant person took me to task at someone else's blog the other day for what-she-insisted-were "anti-Semitic" sentiments I have expressed from time to time.
Because I am militantly opposed to Political Correctness, Hate Speech Laws and ANY of the many forms of tyranny petty and otherwise that ceaselessly beset mankind, I often say things I know I am not SUPPOSED to say for THAT very reason.
I told my churlish critic:
The day Anti-Semitic sentiments CEASE to be FORBIDDEN, VERBOTEN and INTERDIT will be the day I STOP MAKING THEM.
That said, I refuse to tolerate asinine insults to myself or other posters at THIS blog, because it is my Cyber Home, as it were.
Because of my passionate devotion to unlimited Freedom of Expression –– in public venues –– I support Pamela Geller's efforts, even though I dislike her STYLE. However, after watching the featured video I stated to appreciate the warmth and courage in her. I do applaud that.
At the same time I ALSO support ACCOSTING, ARRESTING and CARTING OFF to JAIL disgustingly rude elements like Medea Benjamin and that CODE STINK she heads, just as I would support immediate suppression and severe reprisals against fools and self-styled "activists" who stand up to heckle speakers in a public forum or try to interrupt plays, operas, piano and chamber music recitals with shouts and curses, etc.
At the same time, however, I would SUPPORT the right of those same despicable dissidents to RENT a HALL on their own and spew all the invective and hateful garbage they like –– without fear of being interrupted, heckled, badgered or jailed.
FT,
DeleteIt seems to me that today, in the 21st Century, passionate devotion to anything except what is pre-approved by whomever is despised and ridiculed.
On the other hand, being meek and mild gets us nowhere with most people whom we who are passionate are trying to convince of anything.
I have to wonder if what you and I are discussing in this portion of this thread is one of the legacies of the Sixties.
Aayan Hirsi Ali is a brilliant example of speaking out against murderous islamofascists.
ReplyDeletehttp://nation.foxnews.com/2015/05/16/maher-why-do-liberals-blame-victim-when-it-comes-islam
Others could learn from her style and grace.
SF,
DeleteAayan Hirsi Ali is a brilliant example of speaking out against murderous islamofascists.
Yes, she is.
However, Pamela Geller and Aayan Hirsi Ali have very different personalities. Inherent personalities, I mean.
Different personalities reach different audiences -- although there is some crossover between those two audiences.
It seems to me that Americans today pay more attention to screamers than to reasonable voices. Maybe Americans have always tended in that direction of paying closer attention to firebrands.
American history does have a plethora of personalities involved in movements that we consider worthy. For example: Patrick Henry vs. James Madison. Know what I mean?
Ayaan Hirsi Ali's commentary on Garland, Texas:
Delete...I am no cartoonist. But I do believe the Prophet Muhammad must be exposed to the same scrutiny applied to any religious figure—whether it be Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Buddha, or Joseph Smith. Applying scrutiny to the Prophet Muhammad is not an act of “hurting” Muslims or causing them “humiliation.” Instead, it can actually lead Islam to a better place—one where the imagination of every writer, artist, and citizen can run free, without fear of violent retribution....
Read the rest at the above link.
Not sure when this photo of Caroline Glick, Pamela Geller, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali was taken.
DeleteIt interests me that in all these passionate, disparate, violently clashing opinions no one yet has mentioned Brigitte Gabriel or Robert Spencer both of whom share a similar anti-Juhadist point of view with Ms. Geller.
ReplyDeleteWith the exception of hardcore leftists who reflexively love and adore anything that runs contrary to the best interests of these United States and of Israel too it seems, the primary objections to Pamela Gellar seem to deal more with style than substance.
I've made similar objections to Glenn Beck back in the day he held a featured segment at FOX News. His clownish, overstated, hyper-alarmist STYLE obscured his message to such an extent that I began to wonder if he wasn't in truth working secretly for the enemy he so stridently vilified?
This is the trouble with bearing down too heavily on the obvious and overstating your case whatever it may be. After a while, people just tune out "the ungodly noise" and stop paying attention to alarmists, hysterics, fanatics and egregious
attention hogs.
When God speaks in His "still small voice" that is when people are most apt to listen.
The art of gentle persuasion is all but lost in the hysterical, haphazard, hurly burly of today where everyone SHOUTS at the TOP of HIS LUNGS, while NO ONE seems EVER to LISTEN.
An ultra-fervid, too insistent tone expressed with extreme vociferousness does a TERRIBLE DISSERVICE to the TRUTH the strident belligerents seek to express.
No one wants to listen to someone who sounds like Chicken Little, the archetypical Old Wet Hen.
We may, indeed, be in for a severe thunderstorm, or even an earthquake, but the SKY is NOT going to FALL.
FT,
DeleteYou mentioned Robert Spencer, whom I didn't mention earlier because I didn't want to stray too far from the topic of your blog post.
Now that you're mentioned Mr. Spencer, I suggest that you read this.
Mr. Spencer also wrote this recent essay in which he stated the following:
Franklin Graham articulated what many Christians (and others) are thinking about the now-notorious Muhammad Art Exhibit and Cartoon Contest that Pamela Geller and I organized in Garland, Texas, and that was attacked by jihadis: “The organizers of the cartoon contest in Garland, Texas, had the constitutional right to do what they did—but just because we have the ‘right’ to do something doesn’t make it right! As a Christian I’m offended when people mock my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Muslims are offended when people mock their faith. I disagree with Islam. But just because I disagree, I’m not going to mock them or resort to violence. We need to show respect to people of other races and beliefs. What happened to civility and respect?”
It’s understandable that Graham would think that way. Blasphemy is a serious sin in both Christianity and Islam, although only in Islam is it punishable by death. It is understandable that Christians would consider a contest for cartoons of Muhammad as offensive as a contest for cartoons of Jesus, and think that it would be a matter of simple respect for Muslims as human beings to refrain from appearing to mock someone they revere.
That’s a reasonable point, but there is more to this issue.... Read the rest here and continued at Pajamas Media
FT,
ReplyDeleteActually, my "style" is more along the lines of that of Robert Spencer's than Pamela Geller's.
But the squeaky wheel gets the oil in today's America. People don't want to delve into ideas but rather want sound bytes or visual bytes. Pamela does provide those much more than Robert Spencer or Brigitte Gabriel.
HERE is something that ISIS doesn't find offensive. Apparently, ISIS is having a temper tantrum over the recent slaying of top commander Abu Sayyaf.
ReplyDeleteFT,
ReplyDeleteThis is the trouble with bearing down too heavily on the obvious and overstating your case whatever it may be.
Well, when political and academic leaders don't speak truth to power, bearing down is likely to happen.
If I had a crystal ball, I might be able to find out if Pamela Geller et al are Paul Reveres or Chicken Littles.
So much that is happening right now -- and I'm not referring only to the worldwide jihad -- was impossible to imagine as actually happening. So quickly, anyway. A few years ago, I couldn't have predicted a lot of what is playing out now. See this, for example; ignore the editorializing, but consider the factual realities which are verifiable -- at this point, anyway.
AOW,
ReplyDeleteAll well said, but at the end of the day, it's about convincing people of the danger of militant Islam and reminding us of our own freedoms and how if we don't defend them, they could atrophy.
Tone matters. Having said that, I will readily admit that the polite and well-spoken Hirsi Ali is also despised by the leftwing turds.
But I believe ordinary people in the middle respond better to Ali than Geller, and that is who we must reach. Geller is preaching to the peanut gallery at this point. Everyone else has turned her off. Even with two idiots dead, her current 5 minutes are over. The pop media has moved on. Imagine of two rightwing bubbas had tried to attack some kind of gay event. The pop media would still be wringing their hands and chattering over it.
We don't like Ali because she's making a pointlessly stupid argument. We are not going to make Islam go away, you idiot.
DeleteJMJ
SF,
DeletePamela's current 5 minutes -- Americans' attention spans often do not extend beyond 5 minutes, but that's another discussion -- may be over. Maybe not.
But in that brief time, how many people who somehow missed 9/11 decided to start doing some research.
I didn't pay much attention to the tenets of Islam until 9/11. I kept my mouth shut until I had done 1.5 years of research of my own. I'm not sure that I've ever read as much on any topic as on the tenets of Islam.
ordinary people in the middle respond better to Ali than Geller
I'm not so sure about that. I am ever stunned that so few people even know who Ayaan Hirsi Ali is! I recently had that experience with some of the homeschool parents with whom I work.
Time will tell what the long-term results of the jihad attack on Garland are. I am not hopeful that there will be any great awakening.
Said the dipshit asshole who never had his clitoris cut off by misogynist obscurantists with filthy beards.
ReplyDeleteAs a fat old whining white guy lounging in western luxury, you have absolutely no fucking standing to criticize Aayan Hirsi Ali, you leftwing shitbag!
I directed that comment at you, Jersey. You're a soft, spineless, house martin of the feminized left, you bag o' shit.
DeleteAli, who grew up as a helpless little girl in a society infested with stinking, bigoted goat fuckers who hate women, is making a pointless argument?
Go stuff your stupid fat white ass in a burka and live in Saudi Arabia or Yemen and see how you like being chained to a stove, you clueless, fucking moron.
You call yourself a liberal? You're an asshole who enable anti-woman seventh century throwbacks.
I've been in the Muslim world, and you wouldn't last five minutes.
PLEASE, Sllver Fiddle! I am certainly not prissy, but I've made it abundantly clear that I abhor –– and generally forbid –– the use of PERSONAL INSULTS and excessive VULGARITY. It says so in our oft-restated bylaws.
DeleteAs an educated man I know you capable of far more accurate, refined and dignified modes of expression.
I most often agree with your assessments, but lately not so much with the WAY you choose to express them.
If I let you get away with it, jus because we are friends, it encourages others less friendly and less reasoned to follow suit, and I don't want that.
This kind of thing is what brings blogs down to gutter level, and turns a hopefully respectable forum into a cesspit or cyberspace version of a City Dump.
Looking back on my vulgar comments, I should have simply told Jersey, "thank you for proving my point."
ReplyDeleteJersey,
I don't know about you, but I have daughters, and I've taught them to grow up strong and to know that they can do anything a man can do, and when I see those filthy bearded bastards whipping a girl and keeping her from going to school, or stoning a woman, it pisses me off, and any father of a daughter that it doesn't piss off needs to have his ass kicked because his head ain't right.
You call yourself a progressive? Well, here's a hint for your ignorant ass, traditional Islam drags our society and our daughters backwards you stupid ape. Think about it.
But I believe ordinary people in the middle respond better to Ali than Geller, and that is who we must reach.
DeleteI disagree SF. Americans will MUCH more easily relate to Gellar than Ali. After all, she's one of "them" to the extent she doesn't speak in Yiddish.
But hey, I think I know what makes you "uncomfortable" about Gellar... and it's the same things that make me "uncomfortable" with Ayn Rand.
FJ: Interesting. Could be something to that, but I'm more focused on outcome. Who is effective in making people stop and think. Not the doctrinaire leftists, they never stop and think. Who will make ordinary people in the middles stop, look and process what militant Islam is?
DeleteAt this point, I don't think any Jew or Christian can make a difference.
It's just one religion with its own conceits and bigotry attacking another.
SF, I wouldn't accuse you of overstating your point. Well said.
DeleteI've already said what I think. I HOPE I am never called upon to repeat it again.
DeleteAs Lucianne Goldberg is so fond of saying about HER sometimes oppressive, strictly policed blog:
"This is a SALON not a SALOON. Please act accordingly."
Capiche?
I suppose that there are almost as many things that make people "uncomfortable" with Ayn Rand as there are things that make people "uncomfortable" with ideas that are outside the mainstream of accepted mores of society.
DeleteBut that link does represent a valid criticism since Alan Greenspan was her accepted "fair haired boy" that made it into the inner circles of American power politics, eventually reaching the pinnacle of power as the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. His original coronation into the upper echelons of power in Washington was touted and attended in person by Ayn Rand herself.
As eventually would be shown there was more than a slight conflict between the ideals preached by Rand of "free market capitalism" and becoming the Chairman of the Federal Reserve that represents the opposite of "free market capitalism"—more a representation of a market controlled by an individual who actually asserted he was more powerful than the supposed "most powerful man in the world" (i.e. the President of the United States of America).
It's never a bad thing to be constantly vigilant in assessing your thinking and recognizing where some of ones past thinking may less than stellar as they were accepted to be in an earlier time.
SF,
DeleteThe Islamists are "literally" targetting Gellar now, and so I think that they (the vast middle) will "relate" very well to people trying to kill a "nobody" like her... an average woman who just "spoke out", was targetted for terror, and violently attacked for doing so.
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ReplyDeleteAlison Weir, a writer who has published a book outlining the hidden history of the relationship between Israel and the United States, must have run up against the "sensitivities" of the tribe of the chosen people again.
ReplyDeleteThe American Historical Association (AHA) has refused to publish a paid advertisement for my book, Against Our Better Judgment: The Hidden History of How the U.S. Was Used to Create Israel.
"This type of action demonstrates how the history discussed in my book has, in fact, so often remained hidden. It follows an incident a few years ago in which the largest chain of history magazines in the U.S. refused any advertisement by the Council for the National Interest, based on the accusation that CNI is “anti-Israel.”* CNI is a 20-year-old organization that works for policies that represent American interests and principles."
Just my humble opinion, but Alison Weir would probably be a better source of the realities of the relationship of America to Israel than Pam Geller.
ReplyDeleteNo doubt.
DeleteBut to be honest, I really don't care if Gellar is Jewish. Her message resonates with Americans and Israel is a pretty useful model of how the Moslem world "really" feels about America. They're (Israel) the "Little" Satan, we're the "Great" one.
FreeThinke,
ReplyDeleteThank your for your generous indulgence of my angry vulgarities, but you know how much illiberals who call themselves liberal make me mad, especially when I've been drinking. I had a nice evening playing music with friends around a bottle of Jack, and I should have just stayed away from the computer.
Waylon,
Thank you. Our thinking on this is similar.
Everyone, including AOW: Make no mistake. I stand with Pam Geller against the wild-eyed murderers who target her.
What I lament most is that America has split itself up into hard, stubborn ideological camps. Spokeswoman A could make a statement backed up by verifiable facts, the the opposing tribe will not listen because of who said it.
Because of that, we have rightwing christians standing with smirking God-mocker Bill Maher against very illiberal muslims and the supposedly liberal left who embrace them simply because they piss off conservatives.
It would be hilarious if the consequences weren't so deadly serious.
May 15, 2015, in the New York Times:
ReplyDeleteSheen Center Cancels Event Featuring Neil LaBute Play About ‘Mohammed’
Excerpt:
A downtown Manhattan performance center has canceled an event featuring a new play by Neil LaBute with a title making reference to “Mohammed,” on the grounds that the play is offensive to Muslims.
The event, called “Playwrights for a Cause” and featuring four new short plays about censorship in the arts, was set to take place on June 14 at the Sheen Center for Thought and Culture in Greenwich Village, as the opening of the Planet Connections Theater Festivity, a monthlong arts festival at various locations.
On Tuesday, the Sheen Center canceled the contract for the event, which was organized as a benefit for the National Coalition Against Censorship.
William Spencer Reilly, the executive director of the Sheen Center, said in an email that the play and its title was not in keeping with the mission of the center, which opened last year with funding from the archdiocese of New York and is named for former Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen.
[...]
Mr. LaBute, in a statement, said the Sheen Center was “was absolutely within their right” in canceling the contract but said he was saddened by the decision.
“This event was meant to shine another light on censorship and it was unexpected to have the plug pulled, quite literally, by an organization that touts the phrase ‘for thought and culture’ on their very Web site,” Mr. LaBute said. “Both in life and in the arts, this is not a time to hide or be afraid; recent events have begged for artists and citizens to stand and be counted.”