Does the following
tell more about
ROY MOORE and the RNC
|Jonah Goldberg, 48, conservative columnist, author, and pundit.|
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RNC and Roy Moore, Together Again: Spectacularly Stupid
and Morally Obscene
Populist firebrand Steve Bannon savaged national Republican leaders in a fiery call to rally voters behind embattled Senate candidate Roy Moore as the battle for the GOP's soul played out in rural Alabama.
(Dec. 6) AP
by Jonah Goldberg,
USA TODAY, Opinion contributor
Published 5:00 a.m. ET Dec. 6, 2017 | Updated 9:51 p.m. ET Dec. 6, 2017
It would have been better if the GOP never severed ties with the alleged child molester in the first place.
Rumors that the Republican National Committee was built on the site of an ancient moron burial ground gained new credence this week when it confirmed that it was renewing its support for Alabama's Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore.
I shouldn’t joke, because the worst thing about the RNC’s decision isn’t the stupidity — though the stupidity is real, and spectacular — but the moral obscenity.
Last month, the RNC and the National Republican Senatorial Committee pulled out of their joint fundraising agreements because Moore had been credibly accused by several women of having preyed upon them when they were teenagers, as first detailed in an exhaustively reported Washington Post story.
One of the women, Leigh Corfman, said she was 14 years old when Moore hit on her while her parents were enmeshed in a child custody suit. When they went on their second “date,” he served her alcohol and sexually molested her.
When Moore’s initial denials to Fox News’ Sean Hannity seemed more like lawyerly confirmations — dating teenagers wasn’t his “customary behavior” he explained — a slew of top Republicans said they believed the women and called for Moore to drop out of the race.
There have been no new developments in the Moore story, at least none particularly helpful to Moore’s — now more full-throated — denials. Initially, he admitted to knowing two of the women, saying each one was a "good girl.” Now he says he never met any of them and they’re all liars.
But on Monday, the Post reported that one of the women, Debbie Wesson Gibson, who says she had consensually dated Moore when she was 17 and he was 34, produced a high school graduation card handwritten from Moore.
If authentic, the note doesn’t prove anything beyond the fact that Moore lied when he denied knowing Gibson. But that’s not the point. The day Gibson produced yet more proof that his denials are not credible, the RNC renewed its partnership with Moore. In other words, on the same day the case against Moore got worse, the RNC decided to re-board the Moore train.
It would have been better if they never severed ties in the first place. Because now the RNC is basically saying, “We believe these women, we just don’t care anymore.” The RNC pulled its support when they thought Moore could be forced from the race. They renewed it when it was clear he lacked the decency to drop out. In other words, their real problem was with a potential loser, not a possible child molester. That is simply grotesque.
Never mind the fact that even before the sexual allegations against Moore surfaced, he was already a walking negative campaign ad for the Democrats. But now every donation to the RNC will go, at least in part, to a man pretty much the entire GOP congressional leadership said is guilty as charged. What great branding.
Of course, there’s one leading Republican who fancies himself an expert on branding, who sees things differently. President Trump even opted to endorse Moore on Monday.
“Democrats' refusal to give even one vote for massive tax cuts is why we need Republican Roy Moore to win in Alabama,” Trump tweeted. He later followed up with a phone call to Moore, which reportedly ended with the president saying, “Go get ‘em, Roy!”
As an understandably anonymous GOP official told CNN, “The RNC is the political arm of the president, and we support the president.”
It’s hardly news that Trump has always put his interests ahead of his party or nearly any other cause. But you have to wonder whether he understands his own interests. If the polls are right and Moore was going to win anyway, why throw away the RNC’s credibility like so much ballast off a sinking ship?
Moreover, every GOP politician will be forced to comment on Moore’s legitimacy. If they support him, they’re supporting a man most voters believe is a sexual predator. If they oppose him, they will be asked why they have one standard for Moore and another for the president, who has also been credibly accused of sexual assault. It’s no-win messaging for as far as the eye can see.
Yes, the White House needs Alabama's U.S. Senate seat. But it also needs Senate and House seats in 49 other states, as will the GOP long after Trump has left the scene. The Republican Party also needs its integrity and its soul. This debacle makes holding on to any of them harder.
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Jonah Goldberg is not one of my favorite conservative columnists. But, on this issue he makes many valid points. Not the least being the RNC put themselves in the position of appearing to have no real center or core values. Other than winning.ReplyDelete
The RNC and Trump are like the changing winds. Goldberg really did nail this one.
I'm sorry you feel that way, Les. I see Jonah as a RINO-Come-Lately who is blind to The Big Picture. If that were not true, he would never have written this compendium of disingenuous claptrap that has made him a traitor to the very cause he has pretended to espouse for a good many years.Delete
A RINO is far worse than an out-and-out D'RAT.
This is a happy thing. Congrats to the 2.2 million people now working in America that we’re not working a year ago.ReplyDelete
USA! USA! USA!
And as Trumps approval ratings are now above 45 percent, Trump Jobs Numbers Out: Unemployment at 17 year Low, 2.2 Million New Jobs Since Election, More Americans Working than Ever!
That's all well and good, but WHAT ABOUT JONAH GOLDBERG'S COLUMN?Delete
Russ T. Nayles saidDelete
Jonah Goldberg is one of the Never Trumpers. FORGET Jonah Goldberg. He got accepted as a member of the establishment. That means he joined the enemy.
I'm sick of moralists like Goldberg preaching. Stick to the book, or get the 'f out of here.ReplyDelete
You're not alone, Thersites. This article was posted at Jonah's mother's site Lucinne.com News Forum Homepage, and received so many furiously negative comments with minutes that Mother Lucianne had it pulled –– and all the comments with it, of course.Delete
It's hard to maintain "Urinalistic Integrity" when one of your own is taking a fusillade of pot shots.
The neocon cabal knows no bounds...Delete
Do you think the Neo-Con phenomenon came into being primarily at the instigation of pro-israeli forces?Delete
Yes. Leo Strauss.Delete
LEO STRAUSS s (1899-1973) was a German-American political philosopher and classicist who specialized in classical political philosophy. He was born in Germany to JeWISH parents and later emigrated from Germany to the United States. He spent most of his career as a professor of political science at the University of Chicago, where he taught several generations of students and published fifteen books.Delete
Originally trained in the neo-Kantian tradition with Ernst Cassirer and immersed in the work of the phenomenologists Edmund Husserl and Martin Heidegger, Strauss later focused his research on the Greek texts of Plato and Aristotle, retracing their interpretation through medieval Islamic and Jewish philosophy and encouraging the application of those ideas to contemporary political theory. ...
For Strauss, politics and philosophy were necessarily intertwined. He regarded the trial and death of Socrates as the moment when political philosophy came into existence. Strauss considered one of the most important moments in the history of philosophy Socrates' argument that philosophers could not study nature without considering their own human nature, which, in the words of Aristotle, is that of "a political animal." However, he also held that the ends of politics and philosophy were inherently irreconcilable and irreducible to one another.
Strauss distinguished "scholars" from "great thinkers", identifying himself as a scholar. He wrote that most self-described philosophers are in actuality scholars, cautious and methodical. Great thinkers, in contrast, boldly and creatively address big problems. Scholars deal with these problems only indirectly by reasoning about the great thinkers' differences. ...
Strauss taught that liberalism in its modern form (which is oriented toward universal freedom as opposed to "ancient liberalism" which is oriented toward human excellence), contained within it an intrinsic tendency towards extreme relativism, which in turn led to two types of nihilism ...
As a youth, Strauss belonged to the German Zionist youth group, along with his friends Gershom Scholem and Walter Benjamin. Both were admirers of Strauss and would continue to be throughout their lives . When he was 17, as he said, he was "converted" to political Zionism as a follower of Vladimir Jabotinsky. He wrote several essays pertaining to its controversies but left these activities behind by his early twenties.
While Strauss maintained a sympathetic interest in Zionism, he later came to refer to Zionism as "problematic" and became disillusioned with some of its aims.
Don't reallysee how any of that relates to th.e NEOCON movement, but I have always seen the NEOCON phenomenon as a primarily JEWISH thing, despite Jeanne Kirkpatrick, DIck Chency and a other non Jews identifying themselves with the movement.Delete
Neoconservatism (commonly shortened to neocon) is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s among liberal hawks who became disenchanted with the foreign policy platform of the Democratic Party. Many of its adherents became politically famous during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. Neoconservatives peaked in influence during the administration of George W. Bush, when they played a major role in promoting and planning the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Prominent neoconservatives in the George W. Bush administration included Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle and Paul Bremer. Senior officials Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, while not identifying as neoconservatives, listened closely to neoconservative advisers regarding foreign policy, especially the defense of Israel and the promotion of American influence in the Middle East.
The term "neoconservative" refers to those who made the ideological journey from the anti-Stalinist Left to the camp of American conservatism. Neoconservatives typically advocate the promotion of democracy and American national interest in international affairs, including by means of military force and are known for espousing disdain for communism and for political radicalism. The movement had its intellectual roots in the Jewish monthly review magazine Commentary, published by the American Jewish Committee. They spoke out against the New Left and in that way helped define the movement. C. Bradley Thompson, a professor at Clemson University, claims that most influential neoconservatives refer explicitly to the theoretical ideas in the philosophy of Leo Strauss (1899–1973), though in doing so they may draw upon meaning that Strauss himself did not endorse.
Paul Wolfowicz' mentor was Allan Bloom, my favorite Straussian.
Allan Bloom was born in Indianapolis, Indiana in 1930 to second-generation Jewish parents who were both social workers. The couple had a daughter, Lucille, two years earlier. As a thirteen-year-old, Bloom read a Readers Digest article about the University of Chicago and told his parents he wanted to attend; his parents thought it was unreasonable and did not encourage his hopes. Yet, when his family moved to Chicago in 1944, his parents met a psychiatrist and family friend whose son was enrolled in the University of Chicago’s humanities program for gifted students. In 1946, Bloom was accepted to the same program, starting his degree at the age of fifteen, and spending the next decade of his life enrolled at the University in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood. This began his lifelong passion for the 'idea' of the university.
In the preface to Giants and Dwarfs: Essays, 1960–1990, he stated that his education "began with Freud and ended with Plato". The theme of this education was self-knowledge, or self-discovery—an idea that Bloom would later write, seemed impossible to conceive of for a Midwestern American boy. He credits Leo Strauss as the teacher who made this endeavor possible for him.
Bloom graduated from the University of Chicago with his Bachelor's Degree at the age of 18. One of his college classmates was the classicist Seth Benardete. For post-graduate studies, he enrolled in the University of Chicago's Committee on Social Thought, where he was assigned Classicist David Grene as tutor, and went on to write his thesis on Isocrates.
The objectives of the Jewish neocons coincide with American conservatives of the post WWII global capitalist "empire" variety. Since Hitler, the Jews are very worried about being able to move from State to State. An "American Policeman" keeps emigration a viable alternative.Delete
I'm personally of the Federalist Papers foreign policy persuasion. 'F the rest of the world.
Leo Strauss understood the difference between the Athenians and the Spartans.Delete
from the Jowett summary of Plato's "The Laws"
But as the country is only moderately fertile there will be no great export trade and no great returns of gold and silver, which are the ruin of states. Is there timber for ship-building? 'There is no pine, nor much cypress; and very little stone-pine or plane wood for the interior of ships.' That is good. 'Why?' Because the city will not be able to imitate the bad ways of her enemies. 'What is the bearing of that remark?' To explain my meaning, I would ask you to remember what we said about the Cretan laws, that they had an eye to war only; whereas I maintained that they ought to have included all virtue. And I hope that you in your turn will retaliate upon me if I am false to my own principle. For I consider that the lawgiver should go straight to the mark of virtue and justice, and disregard wealth and every other good when separated from virtue. What further I mean, when I speak of the imitation of enemies, I will illustrate by the story of Minos, if our Cretan friend will allow me to mention it. Minos, who was a great sea-king, imposed upon the Athenians a cruel tribute, for in those days they were not a maritime power; they had no timber for ship-building, and therefore they could not 'imitate their enemies'; and better far, as I maintain, would it have been for them to have lost many times over the lives which they devoted to the tribute than to have turned soldiers into sailors. Naval warfare is not a very praiseworthy art; men should not be taught to leap on shore, and then again to hurry back to their ships, or to find specious excuses for throwing away their arms; bad customs ought not to be gilded with fine words. And retreat is always bad, as we are taught in Homer, when he introduces Odysseus, setting forth to Agamemnon the danger of ships being at hand when soldiers are disposed to fly. An army of lions trained in such ways would fly before a herd of deer. Further, a city which owes its preservation to a crowd of pilots and oarsmen and other undeserving persons, cannot bestow rewards of honour properly; and this is the ruin of states. 'Still, in Crete we say that the battle of Salamis was the salvation of Hellas.' Such is the prevailing opinion. But I and Megillus say that the battle of Marathon began the deliverance, and that the battle of Plataea completed it; for these battles made men better, whereas the battles of Salamis and Artemisium made them no better. And we further affirm that mere existence is not the great political good of individuals or states, but the continuance of the best existence. 'Certainly.' Let us then endeavour to follow this principle in colonization and legislation.
What distinguishes a Straussian from all others is that a Straussian understands that everything depends upon "a Noble lie". And all naive attempts to rectify the injustices of the world require one to perpetrate further injustices. Social justice, therefore, is but "a fool's errand".Delete
...but to a Straussian, that doesn't mean you can't use a "noble lie" to perpetuate a "fool's errand". And THAT is what the neocons exploit in post-WWII America. They keep us pursuing that "fool's errand" and pretending that we can maintain the world power and dominance we acquired in 1945 without "running the empire into the ground" whilst avoiding Thucydides trap... the belief that we can anticipate the Black Swan event that will eventually end American dominance.Delete
Well, the conservative establishment (which includes the punditocracy of which Goldberg is a member) is trying to preserve itself and keep itself sullied from Trumpism. A large faction of the GOP is trying to do the same.ReplyDelete
These actions could be considered noble and principled: "We'd rather lose elections than violate our conscious and lose our souls."
Well and good, but there are a few problems with that approach and the current state of affairs:
* Politics is a back alley brawl with broken bottles, rusty shivs and lacerating razors. Giving up or surrendering is not an option, especially in today's polarized environment. Sorry, voters don't give a crap about your priniciples.
* Movement Conservatism long ceased to bring in any new voters to the GOP. Indeed, during the Romney campaign, it appeared to actually chase voters away.
* Movement Conservatism has not been relevant to the average person for decades. Sanctimonious theory spewing and gratuitous bashing of the left has turned into a circle jerk: The loonies in the tent are having an uproariously good time, and the rest of America has long ago ignored them and moved on.
Until Conservatives and Republicans can figure out how to present themselves and plan and implement policies attuned to voters's needs, they are doomed. The irony of the Never Trumper movement is that the GOP and Conservatism would be flushed down now had he not won.
I have said it before and I will repeat: Had Conservatives and Republicans been attuned to voters, had they actually publicly stood for easily-identifiable principles, and if they had a track record of actual accomplishments, Donald Trump could not have gotten within 10 miles of the party.
President Donald Trump is a rebuke to both parties, crapulent as they are with power, privilege, arrogance and corruption. The final irony--so far--is that President Trump has done more conservative things in one year than George the Dumber did in eight.
The irony here is that Trump, at 32%, may very well be the end of movement conservatism. Unless significant change change occurs,in the direction you note Silverfiddle.Delete
More popcorn, pretzels, and beer please.
I'm not sure how credible polls are any more since the election of Donald Trump was beyond possibility according to polls and pundits before the election results rolled in.Delete
Donald Trump draws a bigger crowd to a rally that HRC ever did. I don't believe there is anything of value on the toxic swill pedaled by CNN and MSNBC and the other alphabets.
Thank you, Waylon. Neither do I.Delete
Jonah has disappointed me with his determined anti-Trump stance.
It's eerie how "The Swamp" keeps sucking in new members even from aming those who began their careers trying to help drain it.
I have reluctanty reached the point where I now feel deep distrust of ANYONE purporting to be on the Right who has not wholeheartedly embraced Mr. Trump and decided to support him fully by now.
Yout post is right on, Silver, but I do wish you'd come as more of a gung ho PARTISAN in favor of Donald Trump –– ESPECIALLY NOW at this critical juncture when the fate of the senate hangs in the balance.Delete
Granted the majority of Republiican congresscreatures are maddeningly ineffecutal ciphers, BUT they are STILL just enough better than ANY out-and-out MARXICRATS to be worth fighting for in the present toxic political atmosphere dominated by putrid swamp gas.
Les, any "poll" that claims our wonderful president's ratings are in the 30's is as fraudulent and unappealing as Bruce "Call me Caitlin" Jenner's plastic tits, shriveled balls, and non-existent vagina.Delete
All the King's Horses and all the King's Men –– meaning the ungodly alliance comprised of the Washngton Cartel, the Enemedia, the Hollyweirdos and the Marxoan Professoriat –– will never get Crooked Hillary to rise again.
Meanwhile our brave, dynamic, super-energetic president Donald J. Trump stands tall astridde the Whited Sepulchre and Stinking Swamp that is Dee Cee like a COLOSSUS.
FT, if President Trump doesn't live up to his campaign promises and continues talking in an aggressive warmongering tone, I think he'll lose a lot of his initial support.Delete
It's impossible to discern exactly if he has been pressured by the deep state subversives within his government or if he has changed his position. He may have some more housecleaning to be done internally.
And I'm not on board with making Israel great and pretending this country has no influence over strictly American policies.
Russia has suffered more than any country having suffered through the wasted years of communism—a demonic system imposed on in through outside powers including America and England. It's reverted back to Orthodox Christianity under President Putin today. Perhaps that should be a clue about the aggressive taken by the American media today, since we do know who has an ironclad grip on the throat of the media today.
If President Trump fails to acheve his campaign promises, it won't be HIS fault, Waylon.Delete
After watching parts of President Trump's rally in Florida, I did see that he was supporting Moore's election to the Senate because they cannot afford to give up the seat to the Pelosi/Schumer axis of evil. It would only lead to more roadblocks to the Trump agenda.ReplyDelete
Doesn't Jonah Goldberg normally support the neo-con cabal? Wasn't there another candidate supported by the old guard RNC, Mitch McConnell and Karl Rove that ended up out of the running?
And how is the search for the "autographed yearbook" coming along?
The "girl" –– now a homely, zaftig menopausal matron of fifty-something involved has admitted that she FORGED a good deal of the message purporting to be from Judge Moore.Delete
She and the Allred virago are TOAST.
Goldberg is one of the original "never Trumpers" he is part of the Republican establishment that Trump beat up and they still don't understand what hit themReplyDelete
You're right, Rusty, but it'sirniic, because Jonah's mother in conjunction with Linda Tripp was responsible for launching the Monica Lewinsky scandal.Delete
You'd think the Goldberg's would be delighted that another highly creative, highly effective anti-establishment "troublemaker" like Donald Trump would be so successful in carrying on in the revolutionary same mode.
Well, well, well, looks whos being accused of being a perv now.ReplyDelete
The bolshevik in black robes, Alex Kozinski of the 9 Circus Court of schlemiels. This rotten bastard revels in his un-American rulings. He laughs has he helps the communist cabal flush thing beautiful nation he hates down the drain. I hope they jail the asshole and he can be Big Leroy's prison bitch.
I wish all those self-righteous conservative writers would attack the left instead of trashing President Trump all the time. Johah Goldberg and the rest of them can kiss my ass.
They'll be coming for you TOO before long, Billy.Delete
The feminazi hit squads –– crypto-Marxists all –– won't be satisfied till they have effectively castrated and blackened the repuration of every able-bodied heterosexual male in the USA.
And what about JONAH GOLDBERG'S ill-timed, anti-Republic column?Delete
Jonah Goldberg is one more asshole shooting all his bullets in the wrong direction. He's a smug prick who would rather be right than see President Trump succeed.Delete
Steve Bannon and Donald Trump unmasked the delicate little fake conservative boys like Kristol, Goldberg and the rest of them for what they really are. To hell with them! They say thay are conservative? Put em all on a slow boat to the conservative kingdom of Saudi Arabica.
I can't disagree, BB. I did like Goldberg for a long while, but I NEVER trusted Kristol.Delete
Basically the Military, along with the Vets, as well as the People who voted for Mr. Trump in the first place are still praising the president, and still and bashing Obama. Basically the Military and the Vets sty are sayind that Obama was a stupid micromanager who got a lot of people killed and president and that Pry Trump is awesome. Why?ReplyDelete
Because he’s is doing ecstasy what they voted for him to do when they voted for him.
Impeaed? No way Jose!
That's all well and good, but WHAT ABOUT JONAH GOLDBERG'S COLUMN?Delete
Kamalia Pussipauer saidReplyDelete
I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my tongue rest in my mouth
Till we have built Black Vaginocracy
Throughout the U.S. South
CASTRATE ROY MOORE!
VOTE DOUG JONES!
Mark Hattschett Kutz saidReplyDelete
You ain't no peedofile if'n you go for the girls oncet they start bleedin an after they get hair on it. An that's a fack. Roy Moore ain't no peedofile. He jest likes girls. What's the matter with that? At least he an't no goddam candy ass faggitt.
That Jonah guy muss be fun of them meterosekshuls. Well sheeyutt on that
Allred's Bloomin' Bowels, UnLTD. saidReplyDelete
I hope you realize too that the long tadition of obscene popular music from Jukebox Satirday Night to Elvis, P. Diddy Coombs and Mad Donna feed and encourage the sexist, misogynistic, abusive, exploitative fantasies of traditional patriarchal male chauvinist pigs, and depraved predatory child abusers like "Judge": Roy Moore?
The days of Le droit du Seigneur are long past.
Instead of reviving the CHASTITY BELT, let us do what SHOULD have been done thusands of years ago, and ENCASE the MALE ORGANS of COPUALATION in a LOCKBOX, and put all males on a steady diet of SALTPETER from the inset of PUBERTY till they reach SENILITY.
Meanwhile, ALL nubile females should be required to cover their hair with a black HIJAB and wear DUN-COLORED GUNNY SACKS designed and issued by the Central Government.
ALL unsupervosed contact betweene males and females should be DISCOURAGED and PUNISHED SEVERELY if it should occur.
WELCOME to the GRAVE NEW WORLD of FEMINAZIISM!
EXTRA! EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT:ReplyDelete
Wow! Trump Fights Back, Forces Public Apology
from Washington Post Writer
for fake news
American Thinker, by Thomas Lifson
Just as Alabama voters are being admonished by their betters from Up North to vote against Roy Moore because the Washington Post published stories about his purported behavior forty years ago, one of that paper´s most prominent writers has been forced by President Trump to admit he was fooled and published fake news. We have a Republican president like no other. (snip) This is the capstone for a catastrophic week for Trump’s opponents in the mainstream media, forced to withdraw and apologize for multiple stories attacking the POTUS. The principle has now been firmly established that negative news about President Trump coming ...
Erotic Charwoman saidDelete
It has always been the policy of the Republican Establishment to pretend to be above it all and either ignore the misrepresentation of the facts or respond with a tepid inane soundbite that did nothing but encourage more of the same.
The Trump Administration fighting back is about defending the truth, ones honor, and the honor of the people who support you. The reason why this concept is so foreign and distasteful to the Republican Establishment is because they have no concept of honor nor any honor of which to defend.
Dollie Popp saidDelete
Our President´s rallies are awesome!
I feel like I'm back in America again!
For 8 years I was lost in a sort of "twilight zone" of falsehoods, propaganda, corruption, and fraud!
Thank you to our Commander-in-Chief for Making America GREAT again!!!
Veterans for TRUMP 2020
Drain the swamp!
Slay the enemedia!
Gooseberry Fool saidDelete
Friday night in Pensacola Florida President Trump was firing on all cylinders, he didn´t miss a beat. The man is our savior from a disastrous eight years of Obama, and he beat Hillary ´like a Muslim wife´. We have a real American loving President. And his tweets, though crude, are his contact to the American people and poison to the media. 'm love it.
Victor Pyrrhicstein saidDelete
I hope the media continues to destroy itself. This has been a long time coming, my friends.
WOO HOO HOO well LOOKEE HERE!ReplyDelete
Flabbergasted: Frank Luntz Shocked
As Alabamians Back Roy Moore in
Vice News Focus Group
Breitbart Big Government, by Matthew Boyle
MONTGOMERY, Alabama — Frank Luntz, a GOP establishment messaging consultant, was visibly flabbergasted as every single one of his focus group participants in a Birmingham area Vice News-produced panel backed Judge Roy Moore for U.S. Senate. Titled “Why These Alabama Voters Are Sticking By Roy Moore,” Luntz’s Vice News focus group aired on Vice News Tonight on Dec. 8 on HBO. “Are you all Christians here?” Luntz opens the seven-and-a-half-minute long segment. “Yes,” all of the focus group participants, who joined Luntz in a Birmingham area restaurant, replied. “Is Roy Moore a good Christian?” he followed up. “Yes,” one woman replied. “Absolutely,” another said. “Absolutely?”
Moore bumps Jones from Top Spot in Alabama Senate PollReplyDelete
by REBECCA SAVRANSKY - The HILL
12/10/17 07:45 AM EST
Embattled Republican Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore is now leading his Democratic rival, Doug Jones, by 4 points, according to a new survey.
A Gravis Marketing poll finds Moore has 49 percent support in the Alabama Senate race, while 45 percent back Jones.
Another 6 percent of respondents in the poll are undecided. Of those who are undecided, 24 percent say they are leaning toward supporting Moore, 27 percent say they are leaning toward Jones and nearly 50 percent are uncertain.
Moore is facing accusations of sexual misconduct from multiple women.
A woman accused Moore of initiating a sexual encounter with her when she was 14 and he was 32. Other women have also come forward to allege Moore had inappropriate contact with them when they were teenagers.
Moore has repeatedly denied the allegations.
President Trump earlier this month endorsed Moore and has urged people on Twitter in recent days to cast their votes for Moore.
In a similar poll released earlier this month, Jones had a 4 point lead over Moore.
The latest poll was conducted from Dec. 5 to 8 among 1,254 likely voters. Its margin of error is 2.8 points.
According to the Real Clear Politics average of polls in the Alabama Senate race, Moore has a 3.8 point lead over Jones.
What's the margin of error?ReplyDelete
Polls have little or no credibility –– especally the PEW poll –– or shou;ld I say the PHEW poll..Delete
If you remember the runup to the 2016 presidential election, HILLAWITCH was heavily favored to WIN by a LANDSLIDE.
Didn't happen, did it? And it was NOT because RUSSIANS hacked into the voting machines to ruin it for Her Heinous.
2.8%, missed on 1'st pass. Looks like good ole Roy boy just might squeeze out the win.ReplyDelete
We'll see tomorrow night, won't we?Delete
Castora Fletcher saidReplyDelete
The Downside of the #MeToo Movement
Starting to Dawn on Women
by Thomas Lifson
The rules of interaction between women and men in the workplace have been changed with a suddenness that inevitably produces unforeseen negative consequences, no matter how positive and necessary the switch might be. (snip) With the stakes so high, given the presumption of female veracity and male culpability anytime an objection is raised, men are, frankly, terrified. Get used to it, ladies. That is the other side of the coin of the new normal. The old norms that men (often cluelessly) incorporated into their behavior now have been discarded, but we have no clear understanding of what should replace them . . .
Terrence Taleteller saidReplyDelete
Chuck Todd’s Roy Moore Hypocrisy:
NBC’s Haven of Homophobes, Accused
Sex Abusers, and Enablers
Breitbart Big Journalism,
by John Nolte
NBC is currently in full Kill Roy Moore and Donald Trump mode. It was fascinating watching those moments from Sunday’s Meet the Press as host Chuck Todd and his one-sided panel piously blasted away at Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore and his supporters. Ann Althouse put it best, describing the whole charade as “cheesy emoting in the Theater of Sanctimony.” What struck me even more was the hypocrisy, because Todd’s own employer, NBC, has become a haven for homophobes, accused sex abusers, and their enablers. On top of that, NBC’s Megyn Kelly, who says she fled Fox News in part - - -
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Mary Jo Kopechne's Ghost saidReplyDelete
No One Ever Drowned in Roy Moore´s Car
American Thinker, by Jack Cashill
In 1990, when liberal journalists still had some sense of obligation to the truth, Michael Kelly wrote the following for GQ: As [Carla] Gaviglio enters the room, the six-foot-two, 225-plus-pound [Sen. Ted] Kennedy grabs the five-foot-three, 103-pound waitress and throws her on the table. She lands on her back, scattering crystal, plates and cutlery and the lit candles. Several glasses and a crystal candlestick are broken. Kennedy then picks her up from the table and throws her on [Sen. Chris] Dodd, who is sprawled in a chair. (snip) Here is what McCaskill had to say about Kennedy´s behavior upon his death ...
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Will Misconduct Scandals M ake Men Wary of Women at Work?
Associated Press, by Jennifer Peltz
NEW YORK- Some women, and men, worry the same climate that´s emboldening women to speak up about sexual misconduct could backfire by making some men wary of female colleagues. Forget private meetings and get-to-know-you dinners. Beware of banter. Think twice before a high-ranking man mentors a young female staffer. "I have already heard the rumblings of a backlash: ´This is why you should´thire women,´" Facebook chief operating officer Sheryl Sandberg wrote in a recent post ."So much good is happening to fix workplaces right now. Let´s make sure it does not have the unintended consequence of holding women back,"
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Democrats forgave Rep. [Gerry] Studds for Preying
on Teen Boys, Hailed as Gay Rights Pioneer
Washington Times, by Valerie Richardson
If Alabama voters choose Republican Roy Moore for the U.S. Senate in Tuesday’s special election, it won’t be the first time in the modern era that voters have sent to Congress a man dogged by a teen sex scandal. Massachusetts voters stood by Democratic Rep. Gerry Studds even after he was censured by the House in 1983 for his sexual relationship at age 36 with a 17-year-old male congressional page, as well as making sexual advances toward two other teenage pages. Far from dooming the Democratic Party, the episode barely registered at the ballot box. Democrats kept their House majority and gained . . .
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Sex and the Single Goal
by David Catron
The sexual harassment hysteria that shifted with such convenient alacrity from the entertainment industry and the news media to Capitol Hill has nothing to do with protecting women, “rape culture,” or radical feminism. It isn’t even about destroying President Trump, though his downfall is ever a consummation devoutly to be wished by the left. #MeToo, in its partisan permutation, is instead a movement cynically co-opted by Democrats desperately seeking an issue — any issue — that will save them from disaster in next year’s midterms. Its only goal is to save “the party of Jefferson and Jackson” from annihilation in ...
Perhaps the big take away from all tis is a) two wrongs a right does make, and b) hypocrisy is rampant in both major political parties.ReplyDelete
It would be funny, were it not so pathetic. IMNHO.
Uh OH! Yesterday Real Clear Politics had MOORE up by 4.8.ReplyDelete
TODAY theu have JONES up by TEN.
How could this be?
Who knows WHAT to believe?
I for one certainly do NOT believe in POLLS, do you?
I wish it were, but I don't think so. It was reported at DRUDGE and was identofoed s a FOX poll.Delete
We'l know the truth tomorrow evening at any rate.
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It's Official, Doug Jones beats Roy Moore in rebuke to Trump.ReplyDelete
Deep blood red Alabama swings blue.
This could be a harbinger of things to come in 2018.
CORRECTIONL The Alabama Senate seat vacated by Jeff "Cipher" Sessions was WRESTED from Roy Moore by the ineffbly vicious WaPo Hit Squad.Delete
We must chalk up another illegitimate triumph for the ENEMEDIA
Even so, the Marxicrat only "won" by LESS THAN ONE PERCENT of the vote –– at the time of the announcement.Delete
I wonder if Roy Moore will demand a recount?
If he were a DemonRat, he'd do that for sure.