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Have you heard tokays weekly speech from President Trump?
He spoke about the Economy roaring. No doubt about it. The fact that the Economy is bursting at the seams, the Stock Market is hitting NEW HIGHS almost every day, and it;s not being widely reported , and that is proof that it is. If the economy was stagnant, as it was for the previous 8 years, or of moderate growth you would hear about it night and day from the media. Companies, and Corporations that had left the USA in the past have been slowly but surely returning here, The manufacturing industries are coming back and their machines are once again humming , American Car Manufactures are doing well again. There was just an announced record of 153,513,000 employed in July, setting a third straight monthly record. I am tired of his whining about leaks, the media, the fake this or that. I say, lets stop all this Russian Bull Crap, Bull Crap about things that never happened and even it it did, there wasn’t anything that he had doe to warrant any stupid “impeachment” hearings. That’s only Progressive wishful fantasies. Let him govern. Prosecute the leakers. Prosecute the previous administration, for the REAL crimes . Prosecute the leaders that enforce sanctuary cities. Do the right thing, and lets make America Great Again.
So, if you're still confused, don’t worry, Mommy will be home soon and she will explain to all in words you can understand. And she might even show you pictures
The press is already studiously ignoring all the good news and instead focusing on how wages are not rising.
Flat wages are a sign of all the out of work people left over from Obama's economic destruction. Once we are at full employment and the economy hits 3% growth, wages will rise as employers compete to keep their workers, but that all goes over the pinheads of the economic illiterates in the DNC Press.
Ergo, a steady uncrease in wages and "benefits" –– (the ultimate Wet Dream of Marx-inspired Unionism –– INJURES the overall economy and thus produces a higher "Misery Index" for a greater percentage of the population.
It would at least a HUNDRED dollars today to equal the PURCHASING POWER of ONE dollar in my grandfather's day.
Anyone who wants to call that "progress" is an IMBECILE.
The Pennsylvania Dutch have a quaint way of putting it:
"The farther ahead I go, the behinder I get."
Humorous though that may sound to "sophisticated" ears, it sums up the situation very neatly,
In an inflationary environment, flat wages are bad; especially when wages have essentially been flat since the Clinton years, which is the environment we are in.
The relationship between wages and inflation is a complex subject--economists have various theories.
I thought I explained it very well using simple common sense logic, but if you want to trust EXPERTS who are all wrapped up in their self-styled, self-important, self-aggrandizing, self-congratulatory –– often conflicting –– academic THEORIES I woudn't dream of stopping you.
But haven't you noticed how "intellectuals" many of whom are devoid of common sense ALAWAYS seem to want to make thing appear far more complicated than they really ARE? I have, and I see it as a damnable form of self-aggrandizement.
The older I grow, the less I trust THEORETICIANS and the more I trust PRACTICAL MEN who can actually PRODUCE useful, sometimes-beautiful things with their hands.
Give me a good plumber, carpenter or electrician over a Social Scientist"or an "Economist" any day.
The world has been victimized long enough by verbose professional practitioners of MENTAL MASTURBATION. ;-)
Well, economics is incredibly complicated, as evinced by the fact that macroeconomics is full of much more uncertainty than microeconomics.
The bigger/wider/deeper an economic system, the harder it is to quantify it, measure it and control it (which is where Marxian progs fall down, falling for naive fantasies about panels of experts designing and controlling a system superior to a natural free market).
Anyway, thanks to the federal government printing money faster than the economy is expanding--which they must do to keep the ever-larger debt wave pushed out ahead of the bow--wages must increase, since each dollar is worth less and less.
I do agree with you that a sound dollar in a rational economy would negate the need for ever-increasing wages (which really aren't increases, thanks to money losing its value).
The dollar was pretty steady from Lincoln's time up until they started unpegging it from the price of gold.
Despite the White House now resembling more a nut house, the Mercurial Maven of Manhattan is Making America Great Again.
* President Trump ended the Obama-Hillary CIA operation that was arming and funding the "good" Syrian Islamic terrorists.
* ISIS driven from their strongholds
* Illegal immigration down 70%
* President Trump is tearing up destructive policies foisted upon the DoD by the Obama Maoist culture vandals.
* Gangbangers rolled up, jailed, deported
* Job-killing tentacular federal regulations ripped up
* After 8 years of torpid limping along under Obama, our economy is finally taking off, gaining almost 3% last quarter--twice the rate for any quarter under Job-killer Obama
* The workforce is burgeoning, as discouraged workers return to the workforce, thanks to President Trump's policies, jawboning and cheerleading, which springs from his love of this nation and confidence in our workforce.
Thank you, YES! but the White House resembles, as you say, a "nut house," ONLY because it is still nfested with RATS loyal to the previous administration, and to The Deep State, –– AND becaise the Republican Party is filled with trecherius, entrenched RINO'S like Susan Collins of Maine. and others too umerous to mention.
I did not mention Senator John McCain , because he is not exactly a RINO. McCaine is even worse. He is in a class all by himself, and qualifies as a genuine WHACKO.
I do think it would have been wiser of Mr. Trump to have done what every proverbial "New Broom" is said to do, and that is SWEPT the WHITE HOUSE CLEAN of ANY and ALL remnants of potential oppositiion before his first full day as president.
Here's another quick economics lesson for the head-in-the-ass marxist Democrats:
Notice how unemployment has crept slowly down under president Trump, despite great economic improvement?
Notice how even in Obama's waning days unemployment looked pretty good?
Obama's unemployment rate looked good because a record number of job seekers were so frustrated they left the job market and are no longer counted, and that allowed the unemployment rate to come down, even as America had the smallest workforce since the bad old days of Jimmy Carter.
So now, even though the unemployment rate under President Trump appears to be only creeping down, despite the fact that hundreds of thousands of Americans are going back to work every month, you need to look at the numbers behind the numbers.
From the Bureau of Labor and Statistics:
"The labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed (unemployed defined as looking for work).
People who have no job and are not looking are out of the labor force and out of the unemployment calculation. That number ballooned under President Obama, and is now shrinking under President Trump.
"The official unemployment rate for the nation is the number of unemployed as a percentage of the labor force (the sum of the employed and unemployed)"
Unemployment Rate = Unemployed and looking/Total Labor Force
https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
How is President Trump doing? Ask one of the One million Americans now working again since President Trump took office.
Anybody remember when Democrats used to celebrate people getting their jobs back?
All that sounds very encouraging, but I HAVE to ask: Can we trust THESE statistics any MORE than we trusted those generated dring the Obama Regime?
Mark Twain's immortal phrase "Lies, God-Damned Lies and STATISTICS!" keeps echoning in my brain every time I read any of these 'Official Reports" from ANY arm of government.
I DO NOT TRUST GOVERNMENT NO MATtER WHO IS AT THE HELM. PERIOD!
I take that advice straight from Mr. Jefferson, himself, who said:
"It would be a dangerous delusion were a confidence in the men of our choice to silence our fears for the safety of our rights: that confidence is everywhere the parent of despotism – free government is founded on jealousy, and not in confidence which prescribes limited constitutions . . . In questions of power then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."
"In every government on earth is some trace of human weakness, some germ of corruption and degeneracy, which cunning will cultivate, and improve. Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories. And to render even them safe their minds must be improved to a certain degree."
~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
I do feel Mr.Jefferson's last sentence too mild, when he said "[the] minds [of the general population] must be improved "somewhat."
I don't believe even Mr. Jefferson could foresee the degree of havoc decades of degenerate Cultural Marxist propaganda zealousy disseminated through mass media by fiendish manipulators of Public Opinion could wreak.
I'm not sure he realized the potential power of GOING on STRIKE –– a concept not yet in vogue when he was at the helm. Institutionalized insubordination and Insurrection had not yet been defined as an effective tool for underlings to prevail against their bosses in the workaday world.
It would take the advent and establishment of "Dark Satanic Mills" to bring that concept to the fore.
I don't recall anyone accusing the BLS of fudging numbers under Obama. They've used a standard metric for decades. There are disagreements over the bases of the statistical modeling--whether the government is really making an accurate measurement--but the model hasn't changed and I don't recall anyone accusing Obama of messing with BLS numbers.
So, in summary, the yardstick may be faulty, but its the same yardstick used over many presidencies.
I certainly did, but then I'm nobody, so what does it matter what I think?
We wouldn't trust a fox to give usan honest accunt of how well he guarded the henhouse, would we? Well then, why in Heaven's name would we trust the GOVERNENT to give an honest accounting of the efficacy of its cockamamie policies?
The government LIES about everything ELSE, so why woudn't they lie about numbers that supposedly measure the quality of their non-achievements?
And HOW MANY BILLIONS of DOLLARS is t that we've been told remain totally unaccounted for? Ot amybe THAT'S a lie too?
Does ANYONE tell the truth EVER about the carryings on in that beautiful whited sepulcher we call Washington, DC?
I'm not so naive as to believe it's even faintly possible they do.
Well, when discussing matters of jobs and economy, we must use some kind of credible and agreed-upon measurement.
Did you have some specific stats in mind that the Obama people were fudging?
The usual practice of conniving governments is not to rig the calculations, but to front-load the input, most commonly by juicing up government spending, which is a straight line to artificially inflating GDP. That is one thing Obama did do, but other administrations have done the same.
I never believed the "happy talk" they put out about dwindling unemployment, and I never bought their bold assertion that Obama deported record numbers of illegal aliens. The REALITY did not being to match the NUMBERS.
We've had, I believe, 84 months in a row of job growth, and the last six of those have been under Donald Trump. It's like a guy built a house and sold it to someone and that person walked in and turned the lights on and said, hey, look at this house I built."
The economy was a continuation of the growth under Obama. I would simply point out that when it happened under President Obama, it was Donald Trump himself saying you can't trust the statistics, these are all lies. There aren't this many jobs getting created, and literally with fewer jobs being created in the same statistics, Donald Trump is now saying, 'Look what I did!'
President Obama also brought us consistent sub-par economic growth, with no quarter or year over 3%; unprecedented especially coming after it did after an economic crash.
The numbers are still phoney, Howard. Only now, Trump gets to lie with all the "authority" that Obama once lied with. Only idiots like you think that Obama's numbers represented "an achievement". Any idiot can double the national debt.
Honestly, spent 18 trillion and not a single bridge built. Only a tool or a complete moron would think obama was a success on Any level. American enemy # 1
FT, We're seeing just how corrupt the Congress is. They have all sold themselves to the highest bidder and are now resisting anything that would be good for Americans. I'm starting think the guy at the ball field should have had greater success.
At the start of 2017, the seven and a half years long Obama recovery was one of the longest on record. In terms of annual G.D.P. growth, the rate of expansion has been relatively modest: since 2010, G.D.P. has risen by about 2.1 per cent a year. During the Bill Clinton recovery (1992-2000), G.D.P. growth averaged 3.8 per cent a year, and during the George W. Bush recovery (2002-2007), it averaged 2.7 per cent.
Citing figures like these, Obama’s critics claim that this has been the weakest recovery since the Second World War. But that ignores at least a couple of important measures. As the economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff have pointed out, “Postwar business cycles are not the right comparator for the severe crises that have swept advanced economies in recent years.” The Great Recession of 2008 and 2009 wasn’t a normal recession. It was an old-fashioned financial bust, and it always takes economies a long time to recover fully from those—if they ever do. Japan took two decades to rebound from a financial bust in the early nineteen-nineties. Much of Europe still hasn’t recovered from the Great Recession.
In addition, if you look at employment rather than at G.D.P., the Obama recovery looks much stronger. Since the start of 2010, the U.S. economy has created about 2.4 million jobs per year. During the Bush recovery of 2002-2007, annual job growth was just 1.2 million. In terms of jobs, the Obama recovery compares with the Clinton recovery, of the nineteen-nineties, when approximately 2.8 million jobs were created each year.
To be sure, there are legitimate questions to be raised about the quality of these new jobs. Many are either in service industries that pay low wages, such as personal care and hospitality, or they are temporary positions. But that’s not the full story, either. Some parts of the service sector that pay higher wages, such as computer-systems support and management consulting, have also expanded significantly during the Obama years. The manufacturing sector, after shedding 2.2 million jobs between December, 2007, and January, 2010, has since added close to eight hundred thousand positions.
And, regardless of which sectors the new jobs are in, the structural shifts in the economy haven’t prevented over-all wages from rising lately, as employers have been forced to compete for workers—a very welcome development. A report from December 2016 showed that people working in the private sector earned, on average, twenty-six dollars an hour, compared to $25.26 an hour in December, 2015. The 2.9-per-cent increase outstripped inflation, which was running at 1.7 per cent.
Obama DOJ drops charges against alleged broker of Libyan weapons Arms dealer had threatened to expose Hillary Clinton’s talks about arming anti-Qadhafi rebels.
Your jobs created number is inflated. Obama's final number is about 10 million. Our population growth was double that during the same time, which explains how Obama's economy brought us a historic number of people dropping out of the workforce, shriveling it to the size of Jimmy Carters back in the late 70's.
You need to do your own research and stop simply cutting and pasting propaganda someone else wrote.
Your exertions to throw out the old yardsticks is as form of special pleading and acknowledges Obama's job growth and economic growth were historically anemic, so thank you for destroying your own case, which can now be summed up as:
"Obama's economy was great, except for the sub-par job and GDP growth."
Yes, under Obama, Corporate welfare mooches like Elon Musk and the Green Gangsters of Silicon Valley did great, but mainstream banks were almost completely wiped out.
Just a Bush crashing the economy cannot be defended, Obama's ignorant fumbling of the recovery cannot be defended either. Anyone who tries is barking in the wind.
Finally, glad you mentioned famed economist Ken Rogoff. From CNBC:
Government lawyers were facing a Wednesday deadline to produce documents to Turi’s legal team, and the trial was officially set to begin on Election Day, although it likely would have been delayed by protracted disputes about classified information in the case.
A Turi associate asserted that the government dropped the case because the proceedings could have embarrassed Clinton and President Barack Obama by calling attention to the reported role of their administration in supplying weapons that fell into the hands of Islamic extremist militants.
Hollywood liberals like Martin Sheen don’t really love America. They just love getting their own way, they love pushing their agenda.
And so long as election results enable them to do so, then they love America. But as soon as the American people elect someone they don’t like, folks like Martin Sheen start bad-mouthing this country.
If they dislike the real America so much, I know that I for one would happily pitch in to buy Sheen a one-way plane ticket to Canada or any other liberal haven he desires. Never to return.
The rabid left 30 percenters are close to hair-on-fire hysteria because they still cannot accept the REALITY that the American people elected Donald J. Trump to be our president. What's hitting them in their wretched, anger-twised faces is that the con artists and lying ass frauds on the left has told them lies about how our electoral process works. Who gives a shit if everybody in California voted for Hillary? They still only get 54 electoral college votes.
The Cleveland Indians scored more runs than the Chicago Cubs in the 2016 World Series, but the Cubs are the champs. Are the yapping commies on the left screaming about that?
They cannot face the fact that the Democrat Party Progressive Politburo a fking failure and a gigantic supperating red pustule on America and that in 6 months President Donald J. Trump has brought higher rates of Job growth and economic growth to our beautiful nation than Emperor Barack Hussien ever dreamed of. Emperor Barack Hussein, aka Honolulu Barry the Choom Gang President, tried his damnedest to turn this nation into a cesspool--he soiled our beautiful nation and everything we cherish, but President Trump is MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. Prais the Lord!
Go look at that snake pit of hatred progressive blog we all know about. It's all Donald Trump all the time. They are obsessed, like rabid dogs foaming at the mouth and biting their own tails. Tee Hee Hee!!!
President Donald J. Trump lives in the leftwing fringe bloggers' heads 24/7/365, rent-free! #Sad!
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Are you not feeling well? You seem especially contumacious of late. You have always been the irascible contrarian with the wise wit, but you appear quite disputatious, even with those with whom you usually agree.
How perceptive of you, Filbert! I have NOT been feeling well at all lately. Exhaustyed, achy all over with occasional bouts of nausea. Don't know what it is. Probably nothing, but yes I feel quite ill without having anything specifically wrong that I can determine.
I didn't realize it showed. I know Jersey's death has affected me a great deal. A terrible tragedy when someone so vital and charmingly pugnacious is carried off like that –– at age 48!
And to be totally honest this absurd-yet-deadly campaign to unseat and dispose of Presicent Trump is beyond depressing. It is both iINFURIATING and FRIGHTENING. I'm not sure that THAT isn't what's makng me sick.
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DeleteHave you heard tokays weekly speech from President Trump?
ReplyDeleteHe spoke about the Economy roaring. No doubt about it. The fact that the Economy is bursting at the seams, the Stock Market is hitting NEW HIGHS almost every day, and it;s not being widely reported , and that is proof that it is. If the economy was stagnant, as it was for the previous 8 years, or of moderate growth you would hear about it night and day from the media.
Companies, and Corporations that had left the USA in the past have been slowly but surely returning here, The manufacturing industries are coming back and their machines are once again humming , American Car Manufactures are doing well again. There was just an announced record of 153,513,000 employed in July, setting a third straight monthly record.
I am tired of his whining about leaks, the media, the fake this or that. I say, lets stop all this Russian Bull Crap, Bull Crap about things that never happened and even it it did, there wasn’t anything that he had doe to warrant any stupid “impeachment” hearings. That’s only Progressive wishful fantasies. Let him govern. Prosecute the leakers. Prosecute the previous administration, for the REAL crimes . Prosecute the leaders that enforce sanctuary cities. Do the right thing, and lets make America Great Again.
So, if you're still confused, don’t worry, Mommy will be home soon and she will explain to all in words you can understand. And she might even show you pictures
The press is already studiously ignoring all the good news and instead focusing on how wages are not rising.
DeleteFlat wages are a sign of all the out of work people left over from Obama's economic destruction. Once we are at full employment and the economy hits 3% growth, wages will rise as employers compete to keep their workers, but that all goes over the pinheads of the economic illiterates in the DNC Press.
"Flat wages?" Is that neessarily a bad thing?
DeleteRising wages cause INFLATION.
Inflation DEVALUES curreny.
Ergo, a steady uncrease in wages and "benefits" –– (the ultimate Wet Dream of Marx-inspired Unionism –– INJURES the overall economy and thus produces a higher "Misery Index" for a greater percentage of the population.
It would at least a HUNDRED dollars today to equal the PURCHASING POWER of ONE dollar in my grandfather's day.
Anyone who wants to call that "progress" is an IMBECILE.
The Pennsylvania Dutch have a quaint way of putting it:
"The farther ahead I go, the behinder I get."
Humorous though that may sound to "sophisticated" ears, it sums up the situation very neatly,
In an inflationary environment, flat wages are bad; especially when wages have essentially been flat since the Clinton years, which is the environment we are in.
DeleteThe relationship between wages and inflation is a complex subject--economists have various theories.
I thought I explained it very well using simple common sense logic, but if you want to trust EXPERTS who are all wrapped up in their self-styled, self-important, self-aggrandizing, self-congratulatory –– often conflicting –– academic THEORIES I woudn't dream of stopping you.
DeleteBut haven't you noticed how "intellectuals" many of whom are devoid of common sense ALAWAYS seem to want to make thing appear far more complicated than they really ARE? I have, and I see it as a damnable form of self-aggrandizement.
The older I grow, the less I trust THEORETICIANS and the more I trust PRACTICAL MEN who can actually PRODUCE useful, sometimes-beautiful things with their hands.
Give me a good plumber, carpenter or electrician over a Social Scientist"or an "Economist" any day.
The world has been victimized long enough by verbose professional practitioners of MENTAL MASTURBATION. ;-)
Well, economics is incredibly complicated, as evinced by the fact that macroeconomics is full of much more uncertainty than microeconomics.
DeleteThe bigger/wider/deeper an economic system, the harder it is to quantify it, measure it and control it (which is where Marxian progs fall down, falling for naive fantasies about panels of experts designing and controlling a system superior to a natural free market).
Anyway, thanks to the federal government printing money faster than the economy is expanding--which they must do to keep the ever-larger debt wave pushed out ahead of the bow--wages must increase, since each dollar is worth less and less.
I do agree with you that a sound dollar in a rational economy would negate the need for ever-increasing wages (which really aren't increases, thanks to money losing its value).
The dollar was pretty steady from Lincoln's time up until they started unpegging it from the price of gold.
So we do in fact agree. You have just effectively made the points I was trying to make, myself, with your latest post.
DeleteThank you.
Despite the White House now resembling more a nut house, the Mercurial Maven of Manhattan is Making America Great Again.
ReplyDelete* President Trump ended the Obama-Hillary CIA operation that was arming and funding the "good" Syrian Islamic terrorists.
* ISIS driven from their strongholds
* Illegal immigration down 70%
* President Trump is tearing up destructive policies foisted upon the DoD by the Obama Maoist culture vandals.
* Gangbangers rolled up, jailed, deported
* Job-killing tentacular federal regulations ripped up
* After 8 years of torpid limping along under Obama, our economy is finally taking off, gaining almost 3% last quarter--twice the rate for any quarter under Job-killer Obama
* The workforce is burgeoning, as discouraged workers return to the workforce, thanks to President Trump's policies, jawboning and cheerleading, which springs from his love of this nation and confidence in our workforce.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-07/americans-lured-off-job-sidelines-may-also-be-limiting-pay-gains
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2017/aug/04/us-gains-209k-jobs-unemployment-rate-falls-43-pct/
Thank you, YES! but the White House resembles, as you say, a "nut house," ONLY because it is still nfested with RATS loyal to the previous administration, and to The Deep State, –– AND becaise the Republican Party is filled with trecherius, entrenched RINO'S like Susan Collins of Maine. and others too umerous to mention.
DeleteI did not mention Senator John McCain , because he is not exactly a RINO. McCaine is even worse. He is in a class all by himself, and qualifies as a genuine WHACKO.
I do think it would have been wiser of Mr. Trump to have done what every proverbial "New Broom" is said to do, and that is SWEPT the WHITE HOUSE CLEAN of ANY and ALL remnants of potential oppositiion before his first full day as president.
Here's another quick economics lesson for the head-in-the-ass marxist Democrats:
ReplyDeleteNotice how unemployment has crept slowly down under president Trump, despite great economic improvement?
Notice how even in Obama's waning days unemployment looked pretty good?
Obama's unemployment rate looked good because a record number of job seekers were so frustrated they left the job market and are no longer counted, and that allowed the unemployment rate to come down, even as America had the smallest workforce since the bad old days of Jimmy Carter.
So now, even though the unemployment rate under President Trump appears to be only creeping down, despite the fact that hundreds of thousands of Americans are going back to work every month, you need to look at the numbers behind the numbers.
From the Bureau of Labor and Statistics:
"The labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed (unemployed defined as looking for work).
People who have no job and are not looking are out of the labor force and out of the unemployment calculation. That number ballooned under President Obama, and is now shrinking under President Trump.
"The official unemployment rate for the nation is the number of unemployed as a percentage of the labor force (the sum of the employed and unemployed)"
Unemployment Rate = Unemployed and looking/Total Labor Force
https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
How is President Trump doing? Ask one of the One million Americans now working again since President Trump took office.
Anybody remember when Democrats used to celebrate people getting their jobs back?
All that sounds very encouraging, but I HAVE to ask: Can we trust THESE statistics any MORE than we trusted those generated dring the Obama Regime?
DeleteMark Twain's immortal phrase "Lies, God-Damned Lies and STATISTICS!" keeps echoning in my brain every time I read any of these 'Official Reports" from ANY arm of government.
I DO NOT TRUST GOVERNMENT NO MATtER WHO IS AT THE HELM. PERIOD!
I take that advice straight from Mr. Jefferson, himself, who said:
"It would be a dangerous delusion were a confidence in the men of our choice to silence our fears for the safety of our rights: that confidence is everywhere the parent of despotism – free government is founded on jealousy, and not in confidence which prescribes limited constitutions . . . In questions of power then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."
"In every government on earth is some trace of human weakness, some germ of corruption and degeneracy, which cunning will cultivate, and improve. Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories. And to render even them safe their minds must be improved to a certain degree."
~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
I do feel Mr.Jefferson's last sentence too mild, when he said "[the] minds [of the general population] must be improved "somewhat."
I don't believe even Mr. Jefferson could foresee the degree of havoc decades of degenerate Cultural Marxist propaganda zealousy disseminated through mass media by fiendish manipulators of Public Opinion could wreak.
I'm not sure he realized the potential power of GOING on STRIKE –– a concept not yet in vogue when he was at the helm. Institutionalized insubordination and Insurrection had not yet been defined as an effective tool for underlings to prevail against their bosses in the workaday world.
It would take the advent and establishment of "Dark Satanic Mills" to bring that concept to the fore.
I don't recall anyone accusing the BLS of fudging numbers under Obama. They've used a standard metric for decades. There are disagreements over the bases of the statistical modeling--whether the government is really making an accurate measurement--but the model hasn't changed and I don't recall anyone accusing Obama of messing with BLS numbers.
DeleteSo, in summary, the yardstick may be faulty, but its the same yardstick used over many presidencies.
I certainly did, but then I'm nobody, so what does it matter what I think?
DeleteWe wouldn't trust a fox to give usan honest accunt of how well he guarded the henhouse, would we? Well then, why in Heaven's name would we trust the GOVERNENT to give an honest accounting of the efficacy of its cockamamie policies?
The government LIES about everything ELSE, so why woudn't they lie about numbers that supposedly measure the quality of their non-achievements?
And HOW MANY BILLIONS of DOLLARS is t that we've been told remain totally unaccounted for? Ot amybe THAT'S a lie too?
Does ANYONE tell the truth EVER about the carryings on in that beautiful whited sepulcher we call Washington, DC?
I'm not so naive as to believe it's even faintly possible they do.
Well, when discussing matters of jobs and economy, we must use some kind of credible and agreed-upon measurement.
DeleteDid you have some specific stats in mind that the Obama people were fudging?
The usual practice of conniving governments is not to rig the calculations, but to front-load the input, most commonly by juicing up government spending, which is a straight line to artificially inflating GDP. That is one thing Obama did do, but other administrations have done the same.
I never believed the "happy talk" they put out about dwindling unemployment, and I never bought their bold assertion that Obama deported record numbers of illegal aliens. The REALITY did not being to match the NUMBERS.
DeleteWe've had, I believe, 84 months in a row of job growth, and the last six of those have been under Donald Trump. It's like a guy built a house and sold it to someone and that person walked in and turned the lights on and said, hey, look at this house I built."
ReplyDeleteThe economy was a continuation of the growth under Obama. I would simply point out that when it happened under President Obama, it was Donald Trump himself saying you can't trust the statistics, these are all lies. There aren't this many jobs getting created, and literally with fewer jobs being created in the same statistics, Donald Trump is now saying, 'Look what I did!'
Job growth under Obama was anemic. It it grew half as fast as the population, which explains why the workforce was at 1970's levels.
DeletePresident Obama also brought us consistent sub-par economic growth, with no quarter or year over 3%; unprecedented especially coming after it did after an economic crash.
DeleteThe numbers are still phoney, Howard. Only now, Trump gets to lie with all the "authority" that Obama once lied with. Only idiots like you think that Obama's numbers represented "an achievement". Any idiot can double the national debt.
DeleteHonestly, spent 18 trillion and not a single bridge built. Only a tool or a complete moron would think obama was a success on Any level. American enemy # 1
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DeleteFT, We're seeing just how corrupt the Congress is. They have all sold themselves to the highest bidder and are now resisting anything that would be good for Americans. I'm starting think the guy at the ball field should have had greater success.
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DeleteUS Congress = Corporate whores.
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DeleteAt the start of 2017, the seven and a half years long Obama recovery was one of the longest on record. In terms of annual G.D.P. growth, the rate of expansion has been relatively modest: since 2010, G.D.P. has risen by about 2.1 per cent a year. During the Bill Clinton recovery (1992-2000), G.D.P. growth averaged 3.8 per cent a year, and during the George W. Bush recovery (2002-2007), it averaged 2.7 per cent.
ReplyDeleteCiting figures like these, Obama’s critics claim that this has been the weakest recovery since the Second World War. But that ignores at least a couple of important measures. As the economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff have pointed out, “Postwar business cycles are not the right comparator for the severe crises that have swept advanced economies in recent years.” The Great Recession of 2008 and 2009 wasn’t a normal recession. It was an old-fashioned financial bust, and it always takes economies a long time to recover fully from those—if they ever do. Japan took two decades to rebound from a financial bust in the early nineteen-nineties. Much of Europe still hasn’t recovered from the Great Recession.
In addition, if you look at employment rather than at G.D.P., the Obama recovery looks much stronger. Since the start of 2010, the U.S. economy has created about 2.4 million jobs per year. During the Bush recovery of 2002-2007, annual job growth was just 1.2 million. In terms of jobs, the Obama recovery compares with the Clinton recovery, of the nineteen-nineties, when approximately 2.8 million jobs were created each year.
To be sure, there are legitimate questions to be raised about the quality of these new jobs. Many are either in service industries that pay low wages, such as personal care and hospitality, or they are temporary positions. But that’s not the full story, either. Some parts of the service sector that pay higher wages, such as computer-systems support and management consulting, have also expanded significantly during the Obama years. The manufacturing sector, after shedding 2.2 million jobs between December, 2007, and January, 2010, has since added close to eight hundred thousand positions.
And, regardless of which sectors the new jobs are in, the structural shifts in the economy haven’t prevented over-all wages from rising lately, as employers have been forced to compete for workers—a very welcome development. A report from December 2016 showed that people working in the private sector earned, on average, twenty-six dollars an hour, compared to $25.26 an hour in December, 2015. The 2.9-per-cent increase outstripped inflation, which was running at 1.7 per cent.
Obama DOJ drops charges against alleged broker of Libyan weapons
DeleteArms dealer had threatened to expose Hillary Clinton’s talks about arming anti-Qadhafi rebels.
Your jobs created number is inflated. Obama's final number is about 10 million. Our population growth was double that during the same time, which explains how Obama's economy brought us a historic number of people dropping out of the workforce, shriveling it to the size of Jimmy Carters back in the late 70's.
DeleteYou need to do your own research and stop simply cutting and pasting propaganda someone else wrote.
Your exertions to throw out the old yardsticks is as form of special pleading and acknowledges Obama's job growth and economic growth were historically anemic, so thank you for destroying your own case, which can now be summed up as:
"Obama's economy was great, except for the sub-par job and GDP growth."
Yes, under Obama, Corporate welfare mooches like Elon Musk and the Green Gangsters of Silicon Valley did great, but mainstream banks were almost completely wiped out.
Just a Bush crashing the economy cannot be defended, Obama's ignorant fumbling of the recovery cannot be defended either. Anyone who tries is barking in the wind.
Finally, glad you mentioned famed economist Ken Rogoff. From CNBC:
Economist Ken Rogoff sees 'significantly faster' growth under Trump
Government lawyers were facing a Wednesday deadline to produce documents to Turi’s legal team, and the trial was officially set to begin on Election Day, although it likely would have been delayed by protracted disputes about classified information in the case.
ReplyDeleteA Turi associate asserted that the government dropped the case because the proceedings could have embarrassed Clinton and President Barack Obama by calling attention to the reported role of their administration in supplying weapons that fell into the hands of Islamic extremist militants.
Hollywood liberals like Martin Sheen don’t really love America. They just love getting their own way, they love pushing their agenda.
ReplyDeleteAnd so long as election results enable them to do so, then they love America. But as soon as the American people elect someone they don’t like, folks like Martin Sheen start bad-mouthing this country.
If they dislike the real America so much, I know that I for one would happily pitch in to buy Sheen a one-way plane ticket to Canada or any other liberal haven he desires. Never to return.
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ReplyDeleteThe rabid left 30 percenters are close to hair-on-fire hysteria because they still cannot accept the REALITY that the American people elected Donald J. Trump to be our president. What's hitting them in their wretched, anger-twised faces is that the con artists and lying ass frauds on the left has told them lies about how our electoral process works. Who gives a shit if everybody in California voted for Hillary? They still only get 54 electoral college votes.
ReplyDeleteThe Cleveland Indians scored more runs than the Chicago Cubs in the 2016 World Series, but the Cubs are the champs. Are the yapping commies on the left screaming about that?
They cannot face the fact that the Democrat Party Progressive Politburo a fking failure and a gigantic supperating red pustule on America and that in 6 months President Donald J. Trump has brought higher rates of Job growth and economic growth to our beautiful nation than Emperor Barack Hussien ever dreamed of. Emperor Barack Hussein, aka Honolulu Barry the Choom Gang President, tried his damnedest to turn this nation into a cesspool--he soiled our beautiful nation and everything we cherish, but President Trump is MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. Prais the Lord!
Go look at that snake pit of hatred progressive blog we all know about. It's all Donald Trump all the time. They are obsessed, like rabid dogs foaming at the mouth and biting their own tails. Tee Hee Hee!!!
President Donald J. Trump lives in the leftwing fringe bloggers' heads 24/7/365, rent-free! #Sad!
Toxic subjects are what we get
ReplyDeletewhen wiser prophesies we forget
love thy neighbor was once the rule
he's deemed today an immoral fool
When we turn away from God
DeleteMovement slows to a dull plod.
The more Man tries to make life level
The closer he gets to the Devil.
Leftists daily commit libel
Against the truths found in the Bible.
The farther we move towards the Left
The more we find ourselves bereft
Of Love and Joy and Sanity
As we are claimed by Vanity.
~ Instant Proverbs-on-the Spot by FT
FreeThinke,
ReplyDeleteAre you not feeling well? You seem especially contumacious of late. You have always been the irascible contrarian with the wise wit, but you appear quite disputatious, even with those with whom you usually agree.
I hope all is well.
How perceptive of you, Filbert! I have NOT been feeling well at all lately. Exhaustyed, achy all over with occasional bouts of nausea. Don't know what it is. Probably nothing, but yes I feel quite ill without having anything specifically wrong that I can determine.
DeleteI didn't realize it showed. I know Jersey's death has affected me a great deal. A terrible tragedy when someone so vital and charmingly pugnacious is carried off like that –– at age 48!
And to be totally honest this absurd-yet-deadly campaign to unseat and dispose of Presicent Trump is beyond depressing. It is both iINFURIATING and FRIGHTENING. I'm not sure that THAT isn't what's makng me sick.
ReplyDelete_________ A TRULY TOXIC NEGRESS _________
Would sane men want to see their darling daughters
Become a psychopath like Maxine Waters?
Better they should die in a car crash
Than emulate this piece of Afro-Trash.
There isn't any adequate excuse
For us to have to suffer her abuse.
Her right to speak we're forced to leave alone,
But must we give this goon a megaphone?
~ Anne Animus
Kerosene Maxine is an asswipe. What kind of people elect such ignorant trashmouths and send them to congress?
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