I don't have a problem with Putin getting into this. It may be a little politically embarrassing for Obama in the short-term, but in the long-run Obama will look wise to have stayed out of it as much as possible. This could be a God-send for the US guys, when you think about it. Really. Have you thought about it? Or is everything just Obamania with you guys?
When it comes to the Middle East, –– where Brutality, Stupidity and Feral cunning appear to reign supreme ––, there is no "good side" for us to back in ANY of their internecine conflicts. It's tantamount to a choice between Feces and Vomitus.
Every attempt The West has made to dominate –– or even mildly influence –– that benighted region has only served to exacerbate the volatility and self-destructive aspects of the accursed place.
"lol! Backing the Shi'a in Syria is a 15% vs 85% loser no matter how you try and spin it."
Quite an immature statement. We have in Syria a secular regime, built mainly of religious minorities, with the end goal of protecting them from slaughter by the majority Sunnis. It has worked, and by appearances, shall continue to do so.
Immature? The following statement epitomizes the very definition of immature...
We have in Syria a secular regime
And wasn't that also the case in Iraq with Saddam Hussein? In fact, weren't the secularBa'athists in charge of BOTH states?
What you're in essence saying is that the King of Spain was a "secular" leader who had it in his power to stop the Dutch Reformationists.
The Baa'th Party was never "secular". Like the King of Spain and the Dutch, it was the story of one religious minority oppressing another religious majority. There never has been a truly secular "separation of church and state" in a Middle Eastern regime.
A country with a Shari'a-based legal system can never be considered "secular", much as America would not be considered to be a "secular" nation if all of it's laws derived their authority from the Bible.
We must draw our comparisons from within the Islamic world such regimes reside in.
By comparison, they are secular. Christians may have their bibles and churches. Liquor stores operate. The regime crushes sectarian violence. Saddam gassed the Kurds because they started an uprising. Same thing again with the Marsh Shia.
I suggest you pull your head out of Spain and focus on the issue.
The larger point remains: These secular regimes built mainly of religious minorities, with the end goal of protecting them from slaughter by the majority Sunnis. It has worked, and by appearances, shall continue to do so.
The revolt was triggered by radical Sunni Islamists who want to dismantle the nation of Syria, slaughter all Christians, Jews, Alawites and other non-Sunnis who had previously been living in relative safety. The Islamists want to construct a larger caliphate and perform a mass genocide of non-Sunnis.
This is not the fault of Baathist regimes. It is the fault of those who preach and practice a severe form of Sunni Islam.
ps - Do you think that Assad will forgive the 85% Sunni's who rebelled if/when they lay down their arms? If so, I'll bet that you also can't spell "genocide".
When observing such phenomena, one must put them in context. The benevolent King Hussein of Jordan is responsible for the worst massacre ever of Palestinians. Every regime has at least one such story.
You appear to be rambling on with no apparent objective. Government regimes in that region are not known for benevolence. A dictator who deals harshly with sectarian bad actors is preferable to anarchy. I proffer Libya as a flaming example of what happens when a dictator is toppled.
Opinion polls are notoriously unreliable in that region, but Libyans prefer the good old days of Gaddafi, Iraqi's pine for the quiet days of Saddam, and so it goes.
Destroy such regimes is barely half the battle, and it is the easy half.
I suggest you do some reading or take some undergrad history classes at your community college. You seem to be a tenacious person, so you would benefit richly from them.
Libyans prefer the good old days of Gaddafi, Iraqi's pine for the quiet days of Saddam, and so it goes.
Yes life under dictatotships is wonderfull. I'm sure the Jews all pine for their happy life under Hitler, and the Kulaks of the "fat living" under Stalin...
e-r-r-r-r-r!
I think that a tour or two in Afghanistan would be your best education.
So you are a military man? Then you should have encountered such people. Many Muslim societies function at the survival and tribal level. Attempts to vest them with yearnings for western style "freedoms" is tragic and horribly mistaken.
Again, you return to European examples, which have no relevance to the topic at hand.
Colonialism isn't relevant? The Reformation isn't relevant? Wow. Mankind can learn nothing from history... or the history of people's not their own. Cynical, thy name is "Heinrich"...
An no, I'm not a military man. I was raised in a military family and graduated from a Service Academy, but all of my active duties were for training purposes only (One year at sea and ten years in the USNR). I have zero "combat" experience.
But my biography isn't the issue. Nor is recommending I take a "history" class anything more than condescending on your part. I'll match my education with yours any day of the week.
I agree with you that expecting the Arab world to aspire to the same things Westerners do is ridiculous. But to think that they desire anything less than what Mohamed Bouazizi aspired to, is likewise "ridiculous."
European lessons have scant application to this discussion.
To quote a famous phrase: We can't get there from here. A dictatorship is often preferable to anarchy. I suppose you supported Bush's Middle East Fantasies?
I hope you are taking medication for your ADD. If you believe the Bush-Obama approach was efficacious, there there is no further grounds for discussion. Our post-911 exertions have made only served to inflame the situation. I refer you to Einstein's comment about the definition of insanity.
You don't put Americans into harms way and leave their backs exposed. And I'd prefer being called "insane" to being "dead" or having my men come home in body bags... as you would have them. You may not like the fact that we invaded Iraq in support of our efforts in Afghanistan. But the very action neutralized Iran and took them completely out of the game.
Liberals forget that Saddam Hussein was violating the Gulf War agreements that he signed with HW. If you ignore such violations, you lose all credibility in the conduct of world affairs. Unenforced treaties are absent treaties. THAT, too, is Realpolitik.
Saddam Hussein and Ali Khameini colluding to sends troops next door into Afghanistan to kill Americans, as they are currently doing in Syria (absent a strong American presence), would not have been a good situation for US-Afghan commanders to have to deal with. The invasion of Iraq relieved them of any such possibilities, and gave the coalition enhanced force projection capabilities without having to worry about our planes being fired upon or our supply convoys being attacked with weapons more lethal than IEDs.
...and then they conveniently forget how they voted on the War Resolutions in Congress and now pretend to have opposed intervention the whole time.
House of Representatives
On September 14, 2001 the House passed House Joint Resolution 64. The totals in the House of Representatives were: 420 Ayes, 1 Nay and 10 Not Voting. The Nay was Barbara Lee, D-CA.[1] Lee is notable as the only member of either house of Congress to vote against this bill.[2] Senate
On September 14, 2001 Senate Joint Resolution 23 passed in the Senate by roll call vote. The totals in the Senate were: 98 Ayes, 0 Nays, 2 Present/Not Voting (Senators Larry Craig, R–ID, and Jesse Helms, R–NC).
Authorization for Use of Military Force - Authorizes the President to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.
States that this Act is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of the War Powers Resolution.
When Congress declares war, you either salute, or move to Canada. Which did you do?
Even Bernie Sanders voted for the War. His hypocrisy and careless disregard for the lives of America's armed forces didn't become apparent until the Iraq vote, a scant 1 year later.
But then, what does Bernie Sanders care if Iraq flaunts the terms and conditions imposed by peace treaties signed with thema scant ten years earlier?
You failed to qualify your support for the foolish actions of the last two presidents, so that would make you the loser.
As long as you are comfortable with whatever level of education you may have, that is all that counts. Perhaps you could seek employment with the current administration. They prefer people such as yourself.
I'll let the reader make their own assesment as to the outcome of this discussion, especially as you failed to support any of your arguments with facts, instead of mere opinions.
And as for the job, perhaps you should take you're own advice, Unless of course, like myself, you don't find much value in it.
The reader will observe that I have made a case for choosing the lesser of two evils and choosing to leave dictators in place, especially those who protect the rights of minorities who choose not to start uprisings against them.
I pointed to Libya, Iraq and Syria as contemporary examples.
You, meanwhile, believe we still have a draft, that Iran is "neutralized" and "completely out of the game."
You have muddied the waters with European examples that are not germane to the topic and DC partisan squabbles.
You have argued for fantasy-filled foreign policy. Perhaps some magic leprechauns would help your fanciful arguments defending the destruction Bush and Obama have caused?
No one but our enemies are better off as a result of our inept and ill-considered foreign interventions of the past two administrations.
So, continue to tell us how much better conditions are in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen and as you say, the passersby can judge, if they can stop laughing long enough at your weak defense of the indefensible.
Israel has a leader, a real leader, a man who speaks on principles. We have this soft, ground toad that runs away when anything or anyone threaten him.. I stand with that leader, Israel and Netanyahu. Obama and Kerry have chosen to stand with Iran
Sorry, Stomp, just about every aspect of US Foreign Policy –– first under Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld –– and their successor Obama-Hillary-Kerry –– has been either inadequate or spectacularly inept.
As I just said to another contributor, there is no "good side" to back in the backward, violence-prone, utterly irrational Middle East.
Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld may have had the right idea to begin with, but their failure to follow through and thoroughly conquer the region so as to bring it to its knees begging for mercy, –– as we did with Japan in WWII and to a lesser extent Germany ––, resulted in the embarrassing failure and ever-worsening, potentially explosive situation we live with today.
Mr. Obama, H. Rodham Clinton and J. F. Kerry have failed utterly to bring about the slightest change for the better. Things have only gone from bad to worse under their watch.
I think what Ms. Bankhead probably meant was that failure to stand foursquare with Israel against her sworn enemies constitutes de facto support of those enemies the deadliest and most powerful of which is undoubtedly Iran.
At any rate, Mr. Netanyahu, a very brave, strong-minded, manly individual whom I respect a great deal, would deeply disagree with your attempt to dismiss Ms. Bankhead as some sort of crackpot.
Here is the Oregon Shooter’s Profile: Who is Mahmoud Ali Ehsani?
Friday, October 2, 2015 5:10
The Oregon shooter had a thin social media profile.
On his myspace page, Chris Harper-Mercer, 26, posted a photograph of himself holding a rifle, alongside images of masked IRA gunmen and an IRA terrorist video. The IRA and Palestinian terrorism have a long history.
He has two friends – a girl and a jihadi. Check out the terror sympathizer’s page – “kill the jews”.
Mahmoud Ali Ehsani’s Page looks like this:
“The Quran ….. holy book of muslims” “THE SIGN OF ISLAM” “The brave Mujahideen heroes” “my brave soldiers keep on fighting for the liberation of Palestine against Israel. fuck Israel. Kill the Jews. jews are the only infidels.”
‘If they said they were Christians, they were shot again’
Ana Boylan, 18, was in her classroom at Umpqua Community College when the gunman entered and shot her professor, she told family members Thursday afternoon.
Boylan, who had started attending the college this week, was shot in the back, said her grandmother, Janet Willis. A girl standing next to her was shot, too, Willis said.
“They just laid on the ground and pretended they were dead,” Willis said her granddaughter told her and other family members. Boylan tearfully recounted her ordeal from a hospital bed after she’d been airlifted to a Eugene hospital. As she lay wounded in the classroom, she told her grandmother, she heard the gunman ask others to rise and state their religion. “If they said they were Christians, they were shot again,” Willis said.
A woman who said her grandmother was inside Snyder Hall, where part of the attack took place, described what happened in a tweet.
Police have not yet said whether Harper-Mercer was a student at Umpqua Community College although several reports suggested he was crazy.
Officers also said they recovered three handguns and what they described as a “long gun” – which generally refers to a shotgun or a rifle.
There is not much else — a profile from a “long dormant” dating site.
And a couple of random posts, thank frankly give little insight to motive.
Is there any proof that the Massacre Boy was influenced by someone named Mahmoud Ali Eshani? If there's not, it sounds like racism to publish that name in a post about the Massacre Boy.
Laura Byding, B.S., M.S., Ph.D. - Professor of Sociology and Women's Studies, Dullard University , Dudville, Washington
It is almost unbelievable and hard to believe that President Obama or that any American President would turn his back on Israel while Iran’s leaders shout “Death to America” .
Why "unbelievable," Illar? Our beloved president and his consort were members of a militant, anti-white, anti-Semitic, anti-Capitalist, virulently anti-American, pro-Communist, pro-Black Muslim, BLACK-LIBERATION "Church" for TWENTY YEARS.
Our illustrious First Couple were married in that so-called "church," by Jeremiah Wright who loudly proclaimed "GOD DAMN, AMERICA!" from a purportedly "CHRISTIAN" pulpit.
Our president was RAISED to loath and despise the United States of America by his Muslim father –- a black African savage from Kenya –– and his white mother, a lunatic Communist bitch encouraged by her viciously subversive, anti-American parents to date ONLY men of color and to get pregnant by one of them asap.
With all that in mind there is nothing the least but puzzling about our president's actions and attitudes.
Even so, I feel compelled to add that Zionism, itself, is an ill-conceived star-crossed concept that could not fail to draw vehemently unfavorable attention to itself. For a race noted for exceptional brilliance, high achievement, and an uncanny ability to dominate host nations where they comprise the tiniest of minorities, the Jews –– particularly the Zionist Jews –– have been incredibly opaque and self-defeating in their dealings with the world at large.
Sitting at the feet of his anti-White, anti-America, anti-Jew spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright, or listening to his anti-Semitic friend Louis Farrakhan, Obama is steeped in anti-Jewish hatred as well as anti-America hatred. But most of all, I believe that he looks at a leader like Netanyahu and realizes, that even as the President of the United State, he is a joke when it comes to leadership. In fact, Valerie Jarrett and Michele Obama appear to have more leadership skills than the man himself. Think about what Netanyahu said about Iran developing ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles) whose range extends beyond Israel, beyond the Middle East – and directly to America. Think about a country whose mission is the destruction of another country – and a country that openly shouts this objective from the highest councils in their land. Think about a country that spreads state-sponsored Shia terrorism worldwide. Using proxies to promote a religious war, ethnic cleansing, and the annihilation of those who do not follow their beliefs, dictates, and demands. And, think about a leader who would sell-out his country to her enemies and consider it his crowing achievement and supreme legacy. If Iran ever launches a nuclear weapon, consider what a legacy that will be – right up there with Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and others who became pariahs to a civilized world. The sad fact is that we cannot rely on the democrats to protect and defend America, let alone freedom in this increasingly dangerous world.
I think there is a problem defining conservatism, fiscal conservatism in particular. It's easy to tick off a list of "conservative" positions, but it's harder to apply a logic consistent with those positions on the larger more theoretical level. Why is it "fiscally conservative" to always demand lower taxes? Is it ever a better idea to pay down your debts? To take in more revenue in order to owe less later? Why is spending always bad? Well, almost always bad. Unless, of course, it's for the military/police state. Does a conservative person forgo investing in the future? Today's fiscal conservatism is not conservatism. It's just stingy nastiness.
On his myspace page, Chris Harper-Mercer, 26, posted a photograph of himself holding a rifle, alongside images of masked IRA gunmen and an IRA terrorist video. The IRA and Palestinian terrorism have a long history.
He has two friends – a girl and a jihadi. Check out the terror sympathizer’s page – “kill the jews”.
“my brave soldiers keep on fighting for the liberation of Palestine against Israel. f*ck Israel. Kill the Jews. jews are the only infidels.”
WHY HAS THE MEDIA HAS AVOIDED MENTIONING THIS AT ALL:
Last night, before the name of the bastard was released, I listened to Obama’s rant. I figured the only reason Obama came out from under his desk in the oval office(hiding from Putin)was because he knew who pulled the trigger before we did. And I thought to myself, the trigger man had to be black and /or Muslim or he would have never spoke… Turns out I was right.
That's entirely wrong –– i.e. false, untrue, ill-founded. The man who did the crime was white with an English-style hyphenated surname. He was one of a still-small-but-growing minority of lost souls who find themselves attracted to radical, violent, anti-social ideas and the movements who implement them.
I believe this sick trend is the result of the kind of alienation so-called "social media" has brought about. The 24/7 "news" cycles on at least three cable networks started the hideously divisive, obsessive-compulsive mentality that has turned the nation into two bitterly partisan, warring camps who have nothing good to say about each other.
The toxic atmosphere this simple-minded approach breeds is KILLING us.
So this young man, Chris Harper Mercer, might just be another fine young American man who went off the rails, adopted a Muslim moniker, went about obtaining an arsenal of weaponry and decided to head off the the nearest university campus to carry out his dastardly business?
Is there a pattern here? It almost seems to be following a familiar script, right down to the usual braying from the jackass in the White House about the usual nefarious enemies. Maybe Obama has hired some of those fine upstanding Hollywood script writers to map out scenarios for him to mount his phony soap box and orate until the listeners ears are bleeding.
How is it possible in today's online to acquire a vast arsenal of weapons without raising flags somewhere. Everybody's purchases are monitored and recorded, especially online, and for even the most mundane items. I find it hard to believe that somebody that buys weapons then makes internet comments would not even raise flags somewhere in the vast monitoring universe today.
This war is much more subtle and evil than the superficial media portrayal of the macabre events that more and more appear to be following a similar script. Ring a bell and the frothing rabid mad dogs congregate to call for the next crusade—while behind the scens the manipulators of the masses through the media are rolling on the florr laughing their asses off at the gullible goyim.
All that may be true, Waylon, but we should remember that israel was very deliberately set up to be a specifically JEWISH State. With that in mind why would we want to criticize Israel's leaders for doing all they could to reinforce Jewish Identity in the Jewish State?
I know darned well I would much prefer it if these United States advocated, emphasized, and did everything possible to encourage the development of a specific, uniquely AMERICAN cultural identity.
On one hand COSMOPOLITANISM can be glorious. On the other MULTI-CULTURALISM is a code word for the deliberate, socially engineered DISINTEGRATION and DESTRUCTION of long established identities.
Balderdash! Israel is a democratic-socialist state with a strong sense of collectivism, and over half the nation identifies itself as atheist or agnostic.
If rabid liberal Democrats in this country could get past their own fears, prejudices and hatreds, they would see that Israel is their ideal state!
FT, I was just trying to show the true nature of what many consider to be "friends" of America. With friends like those, who needs an enemy?
Away from public scrutiny, the ruling elitist cult in Israel recognizes wit honor those Jews deemed responsible for spreading communism—such as Moses Hesse the mentor of Karl Marx.
Seems you've got a problem with reading comprehension, Sheldon.
I made a point of quoting directly from the horse's mouth, so to speak, including a direct source from Israel itself. And I do realize that it may be improper etiquette to be so brazen as to offer a criticism of the "chosen people".
You may be expecting the response of a badly beaten dog to simply slink off and cower in a corner when the implication is made that to offer criticism of Jewish influence in other countries, especially in the United States of America. Why should these issues not be brought out into the open for all to see and understand—what is really happening to a once great country and a once great civilization?
Is there any group that is out of bounds for criticism as much a Jews in what is touted a a "free country"? Unfortunately most people suffer from a blind spot and the game is to play upon that blind spot and exploit it to create sympathy for a group which in most cases is well beyond criticism and sympathy.
You link to a blog post? A blog post that admits it doesn't know if the article in question is a spoof or not?
Do you realize what a small sliver of the Israeli political system the Ultra-Orthodox are? Are you familiar with the long catalog of their nutty pronouncements?
I do not expect you to slink off like a badly beaten dog. I see you more as a dog trying to walk on his hind legs.
What struck me most about that post was the fact that it was published by the Times of Israel and quickly removed because of its inflammatory nature and also that it wasn't the first time that had happened at that particular media outlet with similar types of posts.
You think they are playing to a particular audience, or what? I'm sure they wouldn't want the gullible goyim stumbling across that sort of post, it might blow their cover and even trotting the usual anti-Semite label might not be enough to keep the true nature of that despicable enemy from being exposed to the light of day.
Not to worry, I'm sure there are honest journalists covering the lies that the mains street media pumps out to their captive audience, giving another perspective.
And you imply that you's like to disassociate yourself from that because it's spewing from a small fringe group of Ultra-Orthodox Jews.
If you're Jewish don't you relate to the religion and the Talmud which is also cited above?
Your hothouse theory presupposes a grand conspiracy where the Israelis whisper and giggle behind the "goyim's" back. I doubt it is that simple.
They are not so dumb as to bomb the Uncle Sam gravy train.
Ultra-orthodox? You should see them up close. Smelly, snotty schlemiels who think everyone is going to sheol but them. They also think they are too good to work and to serve in the Army.
There are many rooms in the house of Judah, my friend. I wish you well.
Well Sheldon, I don't think I sad anything is "simple".
To adopt your metaphor, I was only strolling down the street and accidentally looked into an open door and expressed my disgust at what I had seen.
I don't think it's quite so simple as asserting that there's nothing to see here. That I should just carry on and pretend everything is OK, because it's all 'conspiracy theory and a hoax'.
Turns out that the Israel Times, the journal in question, is owned by a well-heeled American Boston billionaire. The paper is just a young pup in terms of age, but has had some severe issues with obnoxious posts that get attention.
And I wish you well, too, Sheldon. I believe we are all going to need more than a little luck to sort out this disgusting mess.
It's not that there is nothing to see. It is that what there is to see is crazy talk from crazy people. The are a sliver, a crumb. So by all means, help yourself to all of it, but please open your eyes and see how insignificant they are.
In Netanyahu's address to the United Nations General Assembly on last Thursday, he criticized the leftist, commits world leaders voicing their support and enthusiasm for the U.S.-Iran nuclear deal. And stared down the bunch of them including our dear leader. For the support of their support of that so called "deal" made by that little pip squeak Muslim ass licker Ovama.
I am not unsympathetic to your views, Ilar, but PLEASE try in future to avoid using vulgar epithets when referring to those you dislike or oppose.
The excessive, persistent use of coarse language degrades the entire blogosphere and diminishes the credibility of any argument we try to make.
I've done my best to discourage and avoid name-calling and the use of four-letter words, though I've certainly done it, myself, on more than one occasion, but if I tried to enforce the rules I've set for this space consistently, I'd have to delete at least 75% of the comments we receive –– many of them from people I consider friends of longstanding.
Gun Control, Gun Control, Gun Control,....I must say, though, that this sure takes attention off of someone’s inability to stand strong on the world stage, and getting spanked behind the barn by Putin …
Yes, I've thought that too. The presidential campaign, H. Rodham Clinton's corrupt practices, and the Obama-Hillary-Kerry EFFUP in Middle East have all-but disappeared frim the "news," since the massacre in ultra-liberal Oregon.
AND, the terrible incident has revived and reinvigorated the Leftists' determination to deprive us of our Second Amendment rights.
Do you suspect a "conspiracy?"
I doubt if I could go that far, but ... it kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it?
After seven years of Obama's hope and change, and to think that now the liberal left believes Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, or Bernie Sanders could be our next president. After these nightmarish seven years, they should all drop out of the race and just say to the American people, “we’re sorry.”. Give us the change we need. Donald Trump has the right message.
Mr. Trump certainly has a flamboyant populist message that resonates all-too-well with the justifiably angry electorate, but he has yet to back his grandiose claims with a solid plan of action, so I'm disinclined to think his bombastic, carnival barker approach to campaining is The Solution we've been looking for.
I'm glad Mr. Trump entered the arena, if only because he appears to have made a monkey out of Jeb Bush, who would be the very LAST Republican I'd want to see in the White House. However, we must be careful what we pray for Mr. Trump ALSO has all the makings of a first-class demagogue.
I've been encouraged to see the brilliant, good-humored, soft-spoken Dr. Carson quietly assuming a high position among the various contenders. That gives me hope the electorate may not be as moronic as they too often appear.
Try not to be too discouraged. I think that once we get rid of that Cancer in the White House and his Wife , we have a chance to get back to normalcy here in America. However if we continue to elect these liberal A-holes and denigrate everything to do with government. Is it reasonable to believe that this one time most wonderful country on the planet, will go down in flames.
Mr. Free Thinke said; "Mr. Trump certainly has a flamboyant populist message that resonates all-too-well with the justifiably angry electorate, but he has yet to back his grandiose claims with a solid plan of action, so I'm disinclined to think his bombastic, carnival barker approach to campaining is The Solution we've been looking for."
Well Mr. Thinke, with all due respect, who has? Certainly NOT sny of the Douchbags that are running on the Left, and I don't see any one on the republican ticket except possibly Mr. Rubio either. Do for the time being, I'll stick with Mr Trump.
While these dumbass libs echo their Dumbass in the White House about more and more Gun Laws, none of them have a answer to the situation. But they still shoutout the same old thing! Never having any resolution to the problem at all, just saying we need more Gun Laws.
When the sad fact is, nobody mentions that you cannot stop criminals and crazies with any law that they ignore or consciously refuse to accept. Not one reporter has the balls to stand up to Obama and ask him “just what laws are you promoting when you say gun control and how would that have stopped this tragic event?” or “do you mean we could eliminate all DUI deaths and traffic accidents by banning cars?” And, if he argues the point, ask him to compare the usage of vehicles to the usage of guns by law-abiding citizens.
Great news, The OAN/GRAVIS and Reuters Show Donald Trump Surging ......Trump 32% Carson 12% with Bush at 10% .
And in the Democratic Party, A Candidate Named "Hez Nuts" Is Surging In Presidential Polls! Hopefully you Progressives wont be too disappointed, because it's not going to be Hillary.
Yes you libs... We know that you Progressives hate Donald Trump for being everything your liberal nominees aren't, like a patriot, like someone that wants to bring back greatness to America, and we heard all the stupid names that you constantly call him and yet you support a Hypocritical, Corrupt, Lying Pig. And don't forget that nauseated Chelsea who seems to have inherited all the bad parts from both of her LYING Parents. donors…. They both money-hungry hypocritical witch’s who will do anything for money. And you have the nerve to sit there behind your computers and say that Donald Trunp is a “Clown with Funny Hair”.. Wow, isn’t that special! Especially when the list of Thunder Thighs’s Scandals are so long, I couldn’t fit them all into one comment. But the one that I like best is the one as the First Lady, ThunderThighs visited our troops deployed to Bosnia, She later recalled her helicopter landing under sniper fire, and she and her LYING Daughter had to duck and run to find shelter...but news footage of her arrival there clearly disproved her recollection. She was actually greeted on the airstrip by dozens of people, including an 8-year-old girl who gave her a poem and thanked her for President Bill Clinton’s decision to send a peacekeeping force to the region. She responded by saying she was overtired and “misspoke”..Yes It was absolutely incredible, how our First Lady, soon to be our Secrtary of State, and now the front runner in her party for the presidency could just LIE so blatantly to the American people. She makes Brian Williams look like a Boy Scout.
Who would have thought that Scumbag Bill had all the class in the family? The woman is delusional. She lives in a fantasy world where she is the Queen and the rest of the world her subjects. And lets not forget that instead of the Hilderbeast being outraged against her husband for being a sexual predator, and a serial rapist, Hillary repeatedly smeared and attacked Bill’s victims. Hillary called Monica Lewinsky, a “narcissistic looney toon” in private conversations with confidante Diane Blair. She called Gennifer Flowers “trailer trash.” Clinton rape victim Juanita Broaddrick said Hillary Clinton threatened her in person only two weeks after she was violated by Bill Clinton. Doesn’t it strike anyone as strange that the only candidate for the Democratic Party’s nomination to be the next President of the United States is the wife of an impeached President? What Gall! God help this country if she ever become our president.
Why will I vote for Donald Trump? Well to tell you the truth there are many reasons. Maybe, it’s just the fact that they can't buy him, and have been throwing everything but the kitchen sink at him, and he's still polling on top of the heap should be enough. Actually in all fairness , I feel he is Kicking Ass with those running in the republican race more so then when he first announced his candidacy If you are fed up with the crap we have taken from a Communist & terrorist loving poser currently in the WH, Then trump is the answer. He's smart enough to have the BEST of the BEST working for the American people if elected....instead of a bunch of Muslim brotherhood supporters inside the WH including his trusted adviser, that Iranian bitch, Valerie Jarrett! Or like giving the Iranians $150 Billion and Nukes with a signature from a traitor president, and didn't have the balls to declare it a TREATY?...They are still yelling DEATH TO AMERICA, in spite of it all.
Is there another leader who can deliver a speech as moving and powerful as Netanyahu today? A big part of why he is so good is because he is a mental giant, a Churchillian figure of great strength, intelligence, bravery and character. Unlike the asshole we have in office today. Watch this speech and be objective, it's like watching a historical figure in action. Years later we will be glad we were around to hear and see him speak:
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu paused his speech before the United Nations General Assembly on Thursday for 45 seconds to protest what he called the "utter silence" from most of the world on the Iran's threats to the destruction of his nation He said when he resumed. "If Iran's rulers were working to destroy your countries, perhaps you'd be less enthusiastic about the deal." Netanyahu was referring to the recently struck Iranian nuclear deal, celebrated not only in Iran, but also by Democrats in the United States. Republicans, and Netanyahu, say the deal gives Iran more access to nuclear weapons, not less.
Netanyahu has more testosterone in his fingernail clippings than Obama does in his entire being.
The sad factor is that not on of these bleeding heart progressive idiots fail to mentions is that you cannot stop these so called mental cases, criminals, and or crazies with any law that they ignore or consciously refuse to accept. As it has been said over and over again, these people if you wish to call them people, I prefer to call them wild animals, don't obey laws, or abide by the system. Not one reporter, and not even our dear leader has addressed that. And no one has the balls to stand up to Obama and just ask him “just what laws are you promoting when you say gun control and how would that have stopped this tragic event?” or “do you mean we could eliminate all DUI deaths and traffic accidents by banning cars?” And, if he argues the point, ask him to compare the usage of vehicles to the usage of guns by law-abiding honest leagal Gun owning citizens. So maybe more people should be looking for other alternatives, like voting for a president who has the guts to tell it like it is, and what it is, is that more Ann more of these shootings and killings are being done either by Muslims, Blacks, or by whites who have been requited by Muslim Terrorists.
America needs to wake the hell up and realize they are coming to kill us!! The Government has totally divided us a country... The media only fuels those fires and encourages racism and hate..we are distracted by bs on the news like Bruce Jenner wants to play dress up and our country is being stolen right from under our noses! I am completely in agreement that if we had a real AMERICAN President with some guts, those folks would already be remembering who the hell America is again! I have been in shock ever since Obummer even made it on the ballot considering he is a fucking foreigner but the fact that America voted him into office TWICE appalls me:( The fact that he hasn't been impeached and thrown in jail shows some serious ignorance just saying and that includes HELLORY too.. Our Government is a bunch of crap.. I say overthrow their asses, put Trump in office and let's kick their goat humping asses out of our country!
I don't think your characterization is all that helpful IIar, I am certainly to the left of you and therefore would be liberal by comparison. Yet I do not fit your stereotypical description of the loony toons on the left with respect to this issue. Certainly I am not alone as there are many others similarly placed politically. But I will acknowledge that the internet seems to attract the radical left extremests . However you do make sense, despite your extremests views. As for Hillary, I must admit that she is the lowest of the low and I can't understand anyone in any party wanting to wast a vote on that piece of Trash,
Until we find someone who has the courage – or in Donald Trump’s case, the lack of consequences – to speak the truth, we will be foundering Around with people like Obama, Moochie, Hillary, and Bernie and other members of the socialistic way where the enlightened elites continue to tell us how to live our lives.
Progressives have encouraged and embraced the 'thug culture. Degenerates lining up to buy violent video games and watch violent movies. Violent thug music. Legalising an 'entry drug'. Moral decay is the Progressive's plan to destroy the country. And it's working. The most violent dangerous shit hole cities are ALL run by Progressive negroes not surprisingly. They found the right leader to help them... leader all right.
Have any of you heard Our Dear Leader Obama was venting his anger over the heroin problem in Chicago his “home town”? Have you heard him specifically address the EIGHT shootings that happen last Sunday night? But I’ll bet you DID hear his speech about Gun Control and his agenda for 15 minutes while he allotted 2 minutes to speak about the 9 victims!
I haven’t heard a lot of Libtard “chatter” about the heroin overdoses in Chicago either but I’m sure that all of the Libtard Progressives are simply beside themselves, tearing out their hair, wringing their hands in anguish because of the guns! Well did the “Guns” get up all by themselves, and marched off to shoot and possibly kill innocent men, women, children and the assorted gang rivals but are truly surprised that the drugs and needles didn’t.
Guns are inanimate objects, syringes and drugs are inanimate objects and are incapable of being used unless someone exercises their FREE WILL to use them.
The United States, and most areas OF the United States have some very strict laws regarding HARD DRUGS, and heroin is a very HARD DRUG.
Chicago has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, so, tell me how it is that Chicago has so many shootings and once again this sudden rise in heroin usage that IS, without a doubt, going to kill a lot of those that overdose?
I haven’t heard the Libtards on the radio, or on TV, or read about this on facebook screaming to “Ban the Syringe”, have you?
Look, I am very much against ILLEGAL Guns being in the hands of anyone that is not a Legally Licensed Person who is entitled to buy, own or carry them as much as anyone else is.. And I am also very much against the use of illegal drugs or the abuse of legal drugs in a recreational manner or not! And I myself am NOT a Gun Owner, BUT I am NOT for taking away our Rights in any way shape or form. I am NOT for taking guns from the hands of HONEST Americans, or, another impossibility, removing ALL illegal drugs from this nation, what do we do when MORONS exercise their FREE WILL and take up the gun, the needle, the pipe or whatever the hell is currently the popular tool of the day is?
My conclusion, at this point in time is that America has been deeply polarized by the progressive socialist democrats and their creation of victims who must rely on the democrat party to redress their grievances and the republicans, so fearful of losing what little power they may have, refuse to set out a bold platform that differentiates them from the “other” corrupt party. The Democratic Party is being run by the liberals to the point where the are close to being a marxist, commies. And it's us who will suffer the consequences that manifest of their choices.
I admit that there may be a FEW far left individuals advocating the ban on gun ownership, but it is by no means MANY. There is no mainstream progressive movement to ban gun ownership.
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The best thing Obama did was go on Vacations. He should get a Nobel Prize for that.
ReplyDeleteAccurate.
ReplyDeleteAre you referring to the cartoon or to the statement by Illar Mellyr immediately above –– or perhaps both? ;-)
DeleteI don't have a problem with Putin getting into this. It may be a little politically embarrassing for Obama in the short-term, but in the long-run Obama will look wise to have stayed out of it as much as possible. This could be a God-send for the US guys, when you think about it. Really. Have you thought about it? Or is everything just Obamania with you guys?
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lol! Backing the Shi'a in Syria is a 15% vs 85% loser no matter how you try and spin it.
DeleteWhen it comes to the Middle East, –– where Brutality, Stupidity and Feral cunning appear to reign supreme ––, there is no "good side" for us to back in ANY of their internecine conflicts. It's tantamount to a choice between Feces and Vomitus.
DeleteEvery attempt The West has made to dominate –– or even mildly influence –– that benighted region has only served to exacerbate the volatility and self-destructive aspects of the accursed place.
"lol! Backing the Shi'a in Syria is a 15% vs 85% loser no matter how you try and spin it."
DeleteQuite an immature statement. We have in Syria a secular regime, built mainly of religious minorities, with the end goal of protecting them from slaughter by the majority Sunnis. It has worked, and by appearances, shall continue to do so.
Immature? The following statement epitomizes the very definition of immature...
DeleteWe have in Syria a secular regime
And wasn't that also the case in Iraq with Saddam Hussein? In fact, weren't the secular Ba'athists in charge of BOTH states?
What you're in essence saying is that the King of Spain was a "secular" leader who had it in his power to stop the Dutch Reformationists.
The Baa'th Party was never "secular". Like the King of Spain and the Dutch, it was the story of one religious minority oppressing another religious majority. There never has been a truly secular "separation of church and state" in a Middle Eastern regime.
Secular. You don't have a clue.
A country with a Shari'a-based legal system can never be considered "secular", much as America would not be considered to be a "secular" nation if all of it's laws derived their authority from the Bible.
DeleteWe must draw our comparisons from within the Islamic world such regimes reside in.
DeleteBy comparison, they are secular. Christians may have their bibles and churches. Liquor stores operate. The regime crushes sectarian violence. Saddam gassed the Kurds because they started an uprising. Same thing again with the Marsh Shia.
I suggest you pull your head out of Spain and focus on the issue.
Please do not attack Mr. Jersey. He is making too much sense.
DeleteWe should nuke the whole damned Islamic world, rope it off, and get on with civilization
DeleteBy comparison, they are secular.
DeleteHow many Shi'a ministers were there in Sadam Hussein's regime?
Saying that the Syrian regime is secular is like arguing that Robert E. Lee's Confederate Army was "integrated".
If you
The larger point remains: These secular regimes built mainly of religious minorities, with the end goal of protecting them from slaughter by the majority Sunnis. It has worked, and by appearances, shall continue to do so.
DeleteIt has worked so well, that the Syrians are in revolt and now 200,000 Syrian martyrs are dead.
Delete...sounds like another victory for "secularism"!
DeleteThe revolt was triggered by radical Sunni Islamists who want to dismantle the nation of Syria, slaughter all Christians, Jews, Alawites and other non-Sunnis who had previously been living in relative safety. The Islamists want to construct a larger caliphate and perform a mass genocide of non-Sunnis.
DeleteThis is not the fault of Baathist regimes. It is the fault of those who preach and practice a severe form of Sunni Islam.
The Shi'a don't want to establish a larger caliphate? Then why are Iranians still reading Khomeini's "Wilayat al-Faqih"?
DeleteThe quietists from Najaf are dying out.
Assad's allies aren't the quietists. They're the Shi'a equivalent of ISIS.
ps - Do you think that Assad will forgive the 85% Sunni's who rebelled if/when they lay down their arms? If so, I'll bet that you also can't spell "genocide".
DeleteYou are displaying an immature disregard for the topic at hand, which is the Baathist regime and its protection of religious minorities.
DeletePerhaps Iran has designs to ingest Iraq and Syria and form a Shia caliphate, time will tell.
The United States government and its citizens would be wise to stop indulging in wishful thinking and address the facts on the ground.
The Ba'athist regime has murdered 250,000 Syrians. It has dropped chemical weapons on them What am I "disregarding"?
DeleteThey aren't protecting anyone but themselves.
...and don't forget the Hama Massacre.
DeleteWhen observing such phenomena, one must put them in context. The benevolent King Hussein of Jordan is responsible for the worst massacre ever of Palestinians. Every regime has at least one such story.
DeleteYou appear to be rambling on with no apparent objective. Government regimes in that region are not known for benevolence. A dictator who deals harshly with sectarian bad actors is preferable to anarchy. I proffer Libya as a flaming example of what happens when a dictator is toppled.
Opinion polls are notoriously unreliable in that region, but Libyans prefer the good old days of Gaddafi, Iraqi's pine for the quiet days of Saddam, and so it goes.
Destroy such regimes is barely half the battle, and it is the easy half.
I suggest you do some reading or take some undergrad history classes at your community college. You seem to be a tenacious person, so you would benefit richly from them.
Libyans prefer the good old days of Gaddafi, Iraqi's pine for the quiet days of Saddam, and so it goes.
DeleteYes life under dictatotships is wonderfull. I'm sure the Jews all pine for their happy life under Hitler, and the Kulaks of the "fat living" under Stalin...
e-r-r-r-r-r!
I think that a tour or two in Afghanistan would be your best education.
So you are a military man? Then you should have encountered such people. Many Muslim societies function at the survival and tribal level. Attempts to vest them with yearnings for western style "freedoms" is tragic and horribly mistaken.
DeleteAgain, you return to European examples, which have no relevance to the topic at hand.
Colonialism isn't relevant? The Reformation isn't relevant? Wow. Mankind can learn nothing from history... or the history of people's not their own. Cynical, thy name is "Heinrich"...
DeleteAn no, I'm not a military man. I was raised in a military family and graduated from a Service Academy, but all of my active duties were for training purposes only (One year at sea and ten years in the USNR). I have zero "combat" experience.
But my biography isn't the issue. Nor is recommending I take a "history" class anything more than condescending on your part. I'll match my education with yours any day of the week.
I agree with you that expecting the Arab world to aspire to the same things Westerners do is ridiculous. But to think that they desire anything less than what Mohamed Bouazizi aspired to, is likewise "ridiculous."
European lessons have scant application to this discussion.
DeleteTo quote a famous phrase: We can't get there from here. A dictatorship is often preferable to anarchy. I suppose you supported Bush's Middle East Fantasies?
I supported the president securing his southern flank in Afghanistan. But then, what would you care about military exigencies?
Deleteps - the example proferred was Tunisian... but then, you pass over Middle Eastern examples with as much precipitancy as you do European ones.
DeleteI'd say that southern flank Bush "secured" has become unsecured again, if it ever was "secure."
DeleteDreamy ideology has been strangled, decapitated, lit on fire and destroyed in the Muslim world. You're not a fan of Realpolitik?
You've obviously never had command responsibilities, or been responsible for the lives of others. Because only THAT is "realpolitik."
DeleteAgain, your comment is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
DeleteAmerican lives are irrelevant? Now we know who's really "irrelevant".
DeleteI hope you are taking medication for your ADD. If you believe the Bush-Obama approach was efficacious, there there is no further grounds for discussion. Our post-911 exertions have made only served to inflame the situation. I refer you to Einstein's comment about the definition of insanity.
DeleteYou don't put Americans into harms way and leave their backs exposed. And I'd prefer being called "insane" to being "dead" or having my men come home in body bags... as you would have them. You may not like the fact that we invaded Iraq in support of our efforts in Afghanistan. But the very action neutralized Iran and took them completely out of the game.
DeleteLiberals forget that Saddam Hussein was violating the Gulf War agreements that he signed with HW. If you ignore such violations, you lose all credibility in the conduct of world affairs. Unenforced treaties are absent treaties. THAT, too, is Realpolitik.
Saddam Hussein and Ali Khameini colluding to sends troops next door into Afghanistan to kill Americans, as they are currently doing in Syria (absent a strong American presence), would not have been a good situation for US-Afghan commanders to have to deal with. The invasion of Iraq relieved them of any such possibilities, and gave the coalition enhanced force projection capabilities without having to worry about our planes being fired upon or our supply convoys being attacked with weapons more lethal than IEDs.
DeleteYou should have stopped here:
Delete"You don't put Americans into harms way"
A casual glance at the newspapers reveals that Iran is neither "neutralized" nor "completely out of the game."
They are pulling strings in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The fact remains, and I shall repeat: Our post-911 exertions have made only served to inflame the situation.
They are pulling strings in Iraq and Afghanistan.
DeleteAnd who's fault is that? Certainly not W.'s...
The Surrendercrats defeat themselves, once again. :)
...and then they conveniently forget how they voted on the War Resolutions in Congress and now pretend to have opposed intervention the whole time.
DeleteHouse of Representatives
On September 14, 2001 the House passed House Joint Resolution 64. The totals in the House of Representatives were: 420 Ayes, 1 Nay and 10 Not Voting. The Nay was Barbara Lee, D-CA.[1] Lee is notable as the only member of either house of Congress to vote against this bill.[2]
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On September 14, 2001 Senate Joint Resolution 23 passed in the Senate by roll call vote. The totals in the Senate were: 98 Ayes, 0 Nays, 2 Present/Not Voting (Senators Larry Craig, R–ID, and Jesse Helms, R–NC).
Authorization for Use of Military Force - Authorizes the President to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.
DeleteStates that this Act is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of the War Powers Resolution.
When Congress declares war, you either salute, or move to Canada. Which did you do?
Even Bernie Sanders voted for the War. His hypocrisy and careless disregard for the lives of America's armed forces didn't become apparent until the Iraq vote, a scant 1 year later.
DeleteBut then, what does Bernie Sanders care if Iraq flaunts the terms and conditions imposed by peace treaties signed with thema scant ten years earlier?
You have strayed far from the topic. I see further discussion is fruitless.
DeleteMore western fantasies will mean further Middle East anarchy.
We longer have the draft, so when congress declares war, one can remain in the United States and debate the issue without having to salute anything.
I suggest you invest some time to educate yourself and refresh the information which informs your decisionmaking.
further discussion is fruitless.
Deletelol!
A good way of saying, you lost the argument.
I suggest you invest some time to educate yourself and refresh the information which informs your decisionmaking.
As this post has proven, I'm 10x better educated and informed than you will ever be.
You failed to qualify your support for the foolish actions of the last two presidents, so that would make you the loser.
DeleteAs long as you are comfortable with whatever level of education you may have, that is all that counts. Perhaps you could seek employment with the current administration. They prefer people such as yourself.
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DeleteI'll let the reader make their own assesment as to the outcome of this discussion, especially as you failed to support any of your arguments with facts, instead of mere opinions.
DeleteAnd as for the job, perhaps you should take you're own advice, Unless of course, like myself, you don't find much value in it.
Toodles!
The reader will observe that I have made a case for choosing the lesser of two evils and choosing to leave dictators in place, especially those who protect the rights of minorities who choose not to start uprisings against them.
DeleteI pointed to Libya, Iraq and Syria as contemporary examples.
You, meanwhile, believe we still have a draft, that Iran is "neutralized" and "completely out of the game."
You have muddied the waters with European examples that are not germane to the topic and DC partisan squabbles.
You have argued for fantasy-filled foreign policy. Perhaps some magic leprechauns would help your fanciful arguments defending the destruction Bush and Obama have caused?
No one but our enemies are better off as a result of our inept and ill-considered foreign interventions of the past two administrations.
So, continue to tell us how much better conditions are in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen and as you say, the passersby can judge, if they can stop laughing long enough at your weak defense of the indefensible.
And you've fail to explain what the "rational" (as opposed to ill-considered/ brash) response to the 9/11 attack "should have been". :)
DeleteA parting Middle Eastern lesson for the enablers of Dictators and Libyan interventionists alike.
DeleteIsrael has a leader, a real leader, a man who speaks on principles. We have this soft, ground toad that runs away when anything or anyone threaten him..
ReplyDeleteI stand with that leader, Israel and Netanyahu. Obama and Kerry have chosen to stand with Iran
Obama and Kerry have chosen to stand with Iran
DeleteReally? Factually that is complete hyperbole and as inaccurate as inaccurate can be.
Maybe Jersey is right... Have you thought about it? Or is everything just Obamania with you guys?
Sorry, Stomp, just about every aspect of US Foreign Policy –– first under Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld –– and their successor Obama-Hillary-Kerry –– has been either inadequate or spectacularly inept.
DeleteAs I just said to another contributor, there is no "good side" to back in the backward, violence-prone, utterly irrational Middle East.
Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld may have had the right idea to begin with, but their failure to follow through and thoroughly conquer the region so as to bring it to its knees begging for mercy, –– as we did with Japan in WWII and to a lesser extent Germany ––, resulted in the embarrassing failure and ever-worsening, potentially explosive situation we live with today.
Mr. Obama, H. Rodham Clinton and J. F. Kerry have failed utterly to bring about the slightest change for the better. Things have only gone from bad to worse under their watch.
I think what Ms. Bankhead probably meant was that failure to stand foursquare with Israel against her sworn enemies constitutes de facto support of those enemies the deadliest and most powerful of which is undoubtedly Iran.
At any rate, Mr. Netanyahu, a very brave, strong-minded, manly individual whom I respect a great deal, would deeply disagree with your attempt to dismiss Ms. Bankhead as some sort of crackpot.
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ReplyDeleteHere is the Oregon Shooter’s Profile: Who is Mahmoud Ali Ehsani?
Friday, October 2, 2015 5:10
The Oregon shooter had a thin social media profile.
On his myspace page, Chris Harper-Mercer, 26, posted a photograph of himself holding a rifle, alongside images of masked IRA gunmen and an IRA terrorist video. The IRA and Palestinian terrorism have a long history.
He has two friends – a girl and a jihadi. Check out the terror sympathizer’s page – “kill the jews”.
Mahmoud Ali Ehsani’s Page looks like this:
“The Quran ….. holy book of muslims”
“THE SIGN OF ISLAM”
“The brave Mujahideen heroes”
“my brave soldiers keep on fighting for the liberation of Palestine against Israel. fuck Israel. Kill the Jews. jews are the only infidels.”
‘If they said they were Christians, they were shot again’
Ana Boylan, 18, was in her classroom at Umpqua Community College when the gunman entered and shot her professor, she told family members Thursday afternoon.
Boylan, who had started attending the college this week, was shot in the back, said her grandmother, Janet Willis. A girl standing next to her was shot, too, Willis said.
“They just laid on the ground and pretended they were dead,” Willis said her granddaughter told her and other family members. Boylan tearfully recounted her ordeal from a hospital bed after she’d been airlifted to a Eugene hospital. As she lay wounded in the classroom, she told her grandmother, she heard the gunman ask others to rise and state their religion. “If they said they were Christians, they were shot again,” Willis said.
A woman who said her grandmother was inside Snyder Hall, where part of the attack took place, described what happened in a tweet.
Police have not yet said whether Harper-Mercer was a student at Umpqua Community College although several reports suggested he was crazy.
Officers also said they recovered three handguns and what they described as a “long gun” – which generally refers to a shotgun or a rifle.
There is not much else — a profile from a “long dormant” dating site.
And a couple of random posts, thank frankly give little insight to motive.
Is there any proof that the Massacre Boy was influenced by someone named Mahmoud Ali Eshani? If there's not, it sounds like racism to publish that name in a post about the Massacre Boy.
DeleteLaura Byding, B.S., M.S., Ph.D. - Professor of Sociology and Women's Studies, Dullard University , Dudville, Washington
ReplyDeleteIt is almost unbelievable and hard to believe that President Obama or that any American President would turn his back on Israel while Iran’s leaders shout “Death to America” .
Why "unbelievable," Illar? Our beloved president and his consort were members of a militant, anti-white, anti-Semitic, anti-Capitalist, virulently anti-American, pro-Communist, pro-Black Muslim, BLACK-LIBERATION "Church" for TWENTY YEARS.
DeleteOur illustrious First Couple were married in that so-called "church," by Jeremiah Wright who loudly proclaimed "GOD DAMN, AMERICA!" from a purportedly "CHRISTIAN" pulpit.
Our president was RAISED to loath and despise the United States of America by his Muslim father –- a black African savage from Kenya –– and his white mother, a lunatic Communist bitch encouraged by her viciously subversive, anti-American parents to date ONLY men of color and to get pregnant by one of them asap.
With all that in mind there is nothing the least but puzzling about our president's actions and attitudes.
Even so, I feel compelled to add that Zionism, itself, is an ill-conceived star-crossed concept that could not fail to draw vehemently unfavorable attention to itself. For a race noted for exceptional brilliance, high achievement, and an uncanny ability to dominate host nations where they comprise the tiniest of minorities, the Jews –– particularly the Zionist Jews –– have been incredibly opaque and self-defeating in their dealings with the world at large.
Sitting at the feet of his anti-White, anti-America, anti-Jew spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright, or listening to his anti-Semitic friend Louis Farrakhan, Obama is steeped in anti-Jewish hatred as well as anti-America hatred. But most of all, I believe that he looks at a leader like Netanyahu and realizes, that even as the President of the United State, he is a joke when it comes to leadership. In fact, Valerie Jarrett and Michele Obama appear to have more leadership skills than the man himself.
ReplyDeleteThink about what Netanyahu said about Iran developing ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles) whose range extends beyond Israel, beyond the Middle East – and directly to America.
Think about a country whose mission is the destruction of another country – and a country that openly shouts this objective from the highest councils in their land.
Think about a country that spreads state-sponsored Shia terrorism worldwide. Using proxies to promote a religious war, ethnic cleansing, and the annihilation of those who do not follow their beliefs, dictates, and demands.
And, think about a leader who would sell-out his country to her enemies and consider it his crowing achievement and supreme legacy. If Iran ever launches a nuclear weapon, consider what a legacy that will be – right up there with Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and others who became pariahs to a civilized world.
The sad fact is that we cannot rely on the democrats to protect and defend America, let alone freedom in this increasingly dangerous world.
I think there is a problem defining conservatism, fiscal conservatism in particular. It's easy to tick off a list of "conservative" positions, but it's harder to apply a logic consistent with those positions on the larger more theoretical level. Why is it "fiscally conservative" to always demand lower taxes? Is it ever a better idea to pay down your debts? To take in more revenue in order to owe less later? Why is spending always bad? Well, almost always bad. Unless, of course, it's for the military/police state. Does a conservative person forgo investing in the future? Today's fiscal conservatism is not conservatism. It's just stingy nastiness.
DeleteOn his myspace page, Chris Harper-Mercer, 26, posted a photograph of himself holding a rifle, alongside images of masked IRA gunmen and an IRA terrorist video. The IRA and Palestinian terrorism have a long history.
DeleteHe has two friends – a girl and a jihadi. Check out the terror sympathizer’s page – “kill the jews”.
“my brave soldiers keep on fighting for the liberation of Palestine against Israel. f*ck Israel. Kill the Jews. jews are the only infidels.”
WHY HAS THE MEDIA HAS AVOIDED MENTIONING THIS AT ALL:
Last night, before the name of the bastard was released, I listened to Obama’s rant.
ReplyDeleteI figured the only reason Obama came out from under his desk in the oval office(hiding from Putin)was because he knew who pulled the trigger before we did. And I thought to myself, the trigger man had to be black and /or Muslim or he would have never spoke…
Turns out I was right.
That's entirely wrong –– i.e. false, untrue, ill-founded. The man who did the crime was white with an English-style hyphenated surname. He was one of a still-small-but-growing minority of lost souls who find themselves attracted to radical, violent, anti-social ideas and the movements who implement them.
DeleteI believe this sick trend is the result of the kind of alienation so-called "social media" has brought about. The 24/7 "news" cycles on at least three cable networks started the hideously divisive, obsessive-compulsive mentality that has turned the nation into two bitterly partisan, warring camps who have nothing good to say about each other.
The toxic atmosphere this simple-minded approach breeds is KILLING us.
So this young man, Chris Harper Mercer, might just be another fine young American man who went off the rails, adopted a Muslim moniker, went about obtaining an arsenal of weaponry and decided to head off the the nearest university campus to carry out his dastardly business?
DeleteIs there a pattern here? It almost seems to be following a familiar script, right down to the usual braying from the jackass in the White House about the usual nefarious enemies. Maybe Obama has hired some of those fine upstanding Hollywood script writers to map out scenarios for him to mount his phony soap box and orate until the listeners ears are bleeding.
How is it possible in today's online to acquire a vast arsenal of weapons without raising flags somewhere. Everybody's purchases are monitored and recorded, especially online, and for even the most mundane items. I find it hard to believe that somebody that buys weapons then makes internet comments would not even raise flags somewhere in the vast monitoring universe today.
This war is much more subtle and evil than the superficial media portrayal of the macabre events that more and more appear to be following a similar script. Ring a bell and the frothing rabid mad dogs congregate to call for the next crusade—while behind the scens the manipulators of the masses through the media are rolling on the florr laughing their asses off at the gullible goyim.
A Jewish state fully endorses the use of the Jewish Torah and the Talmud as the laws of the land. Last year, as part of a series of moves designed to make Israel’s Jewish status crystal clear, Benjamin Netanyahu publicly stated that he aims to make Israel’s legal system based on the Talmud, as it should be. In Netanyahu’s own words to the Likud party’s ultra-Orthodox member Yaakov Vider: “We will legally define the Talmud as the basis of the Israeli legal system.”
DeleteAs the Jewish state, Israel’s Jewish essence must be felt in every single aspect of Israeli life. The Talmud is the divine law of the Jewish people, so it’s essential that it also be the law of Israel – the Jewish state. Regardless of one’s feelings about Netanyahu, his commitment to following Talmudic law and cementing Israel’s Jewish status is truly something to be admired.
However, by acknowledging the idea of “Palestinian land,” Netanyahu is betraying the Talmud and Talmudic law. If there is one term that I truly cannot stand to hear, it’s the term “Palestinian land.” Talking to other people in the Jewish community, I often hear the term “Palestinian land” thrown about, and it always deeply irks me. Any Jew who speaks of “Palestinian land” clearly has a very deep misunderstanding of Jewish law. The Talmud makes it very clear that all land belongs to Jews, and that Jews may seize any land that they so desire. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: “All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples.” This is directly from the Talmud. Why, then, should the “Palestinians” be entitled to any land? Why should they even be allowed to exist?
In the words of top Israeli Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel.” Likewise, Rabbi Ya’acov Perin has publicly stated: “One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.” Shocking? It shouldn’t be. This is Talmudic law as well. The Talmud makes it very clear that the life of a non-Jew has no value, and that gentiles exist only to serve Jews. Sanhedrin 59a: “Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.” Abodah Zara 26b: “Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed.” Baba Necia 114, 6: “The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts.” Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: “Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.”
All that may be true, Waylon, but we should remember that israel was very deliberately set up to be a specifically JEWISH State. With that in mind why would we want to criticize Israel's leaders for doing all they could to reinforce Jewish Identity in the Jewish State?
DeleteI know darned well I would much prefer it if these United States advocated, emphasized, and did everything possible to encourage the development of a specific, uniquely AMERICAN cultural identity.
On one hand COSMOPOLITANISM can be glorious. On the other MULTI-CULTURALISM is a code word for the deliberate, socially engineered DISINTEGRATION and DESTRUCTION of long established identities.
Balderdash! Israel is a democratic-socialist state with a strong sense of collectivism, and over half the nation identifies itself as atheist or agnostic.
DeleteIf rabid liberal Democrats in this country could get past their own fears, prejudices and hatreds, they would see that Israel is their ideal state!
FT, I was just trying to show the true nature of what many consider to be "friends" of America. With friends like those, who needs an enemy?
DeleteAway from public scrutiny, the ruling elitist cult in Israel recognizes wit honor those Jews deemed responsible for spreading communism—such as Moses Hesse the mentor of Karl Marx.
Meshugenah Alert!
DeleteWaylon's on another verbal pogrom, fresh from visiting the Adoph Hitler Shrine.
Mr FreeThinke: Are you sure this crazy person is not reporting in from the Gaza Strip?
Oy veh!
Seems you've got a problem with reading comprehension, Sheldon.
DeleteI made a point of quoting directly from the horse's mouth, so to speak, including a direct source from Israel itself. And I do realize that it may be improper etiquette to be so brazen as to offer a criticism of the "chosen people".
You may be expecting the response of a badly beaten dog to simply slink off and cower in a corner when the implication is made that to offer criticism of Jewish influence in other countries, especially in the United States of America. Why should these issues not be brought out into the open for all to see and understand—what is really happening to a once great country and a once great civilization?
Is there any group that is out of bounds for criticism as much a Jews in what is touted a a "free country"? Unfortunately most people suffer from a blind spot and the game is to play upon that blind spot and exploit it to create sympathy for a group which in most cases is well beyond criticism and sympathy.
You link to a blog post? A blog post that admits it doesn't know if the article in question is a spoof or not?
DeleteDo you realize what a small sliver of the Israeli political system the Ultra-Orthodox are? Are you familiar with the long catalog of their nutty pronouncements?
I do not expect you to slink off like a badly beaten dog. I see you more as a dog trying to walk on his hind legs.
What struck me most about that post was the fact that it was published by the Times of Israel and quickly removed because of its inflammatory nature and also that it wasn't the first time that had happened at that particular media outlet with similar types of posts.
DeleteYou think they are playing to a particular audience, or what? I'm sure they wouldn't want the gullible goyim stumbling across that sort of post, it might blow their cover and even trotting the usual anti-Semite label might not be enough to keep the true nature of that despicable enemy from being exposed to the light of day.
Not to worry, I'm sure there are honest journalists covering the lies that the mains street media pumps out to their captive audience, giving another perspective.
And you imply that you's like to disassociate yourself from that because it's spewing from a small fringe group of
Ultra-Orthodox Jews.
If you're Jewish don't you relate to the religion and the Talmud which is also cited above?
Your hothouse theory presupposes a grand conspiracy where the Israelis whisper and giggle behind the "goyim's" back. I doubt it is that simple.
DeleteThey are not so dumb as to bomb the Uncle Sam gravy train.
Ultra-orthodox? You should see them up close. Smelly, snotty schlemiels who think everyone is going to sheol but them. They also think they are too good to work and to serve in the Army.
There are many rooms in the house of Judah, my friend. I wish you well.
Well Sheldon, I don't think I sad anything is "simple".
DeleteTo adopt your metaphor, I was only strolling down the street and accidentally looked into an open door and expressed my disgust at what I had seen.
I don't think it's quite so simple as asserting that there's nothing to see here. That I should just carry on and pretend everything is OK, because it's all 'conspiracy theory and a hoax'.
Turns out that the Israel Times, the journal in question, is owned by a well-heeled American Boston billionaire. The paper is just a young pup in terms of age, but has had some severe issues with obnoxious posts that get attention.
And I wish you well, too, Sheldon. I believe we are all going to need more than a little luck to sort out this disgusting mess.
It's not that there is nothing to see. It is that what there is to see is crazy talk from crazy people. The are a sliver, a crumb. So by all means, help yourself to all of it, but please open your eyes and see how insignificant they are.
DeleteBe well, Waylon
In Netanyahu's address to the United Nations General Assembly on last Thursday, he criticized the leftist, commits world leaders voicing their support and enthusiasm for the U.S.-Iran nuclear deal. And stared down the bunch of them including our dear leader.
ReplyDeleteFor the support of their support of that so called "deal" made by that little pip squeak Muslim ass licker Ovama.
I am not unsympathetic to your views, Ilar, but PLEASE try in future to avoid using vulgar epithets when referring to those you dislike or oppose.
DeleteThe excessive, persistent use of coarse language degrades the entire blogosphere and diminishes the credibility of any argument we try to make.
I've done my best to discourage and avoid name-calling and the use of four-letter words, though I've certainly done it, myself, on more than one occasion, but if I tried to enforce the rules I've set for this space consistently, I'd have to delete at least 75% of the comments we receive –– many of them from people I consider friends of longstanding.
Gun Control, Gun Control, Gun Control,....I must say, though, that this sure takes attention off of someone’s inability to stand strong on the world stage, and getting spanked behind the barn by Putin …
ReplyDeleteYes, I've thought that too. The presidential campaign, H. Rodham Clinton's corrupt practices, and the Obama-Hillary-Kerry EFFUP in Middle East have all-but disappeared frim the "news," since the massacre in ultra-liberal Oregon.
DeleteAND, the terrible incident has revived and reinvigorated the Leftists' determination to deprive us of our Second Amendment rights.
Do you suspect a "conspiracy?"
I doubt if I could go that far, but ... it kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it?
After seven years of Obama's hope and change, and to think that now the liberal left believes Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, or Bernie Sanders could be our next president. After these nightmarish seven years, they should all drop out of the race and just say to the American people, “we’re sorry.”.
ReplyDeleteGive us the change we need.
Donald Trump has the right message.
Mr. Trump certainly has a flamboyant populist message that resonates all-too-well with the justifiably angry electorate, but he has yet to back his grandiose claims with a solid plan of action, so I'm disinclined to think his bombastic, carnival barker approach to campaining is The Solution we've been looking for.
DeleteI'm glad Mr. Trump entered the arena, if only because he appears to have made a monkey out of Jeb Bush, who would be the very LAST Republican I'd want to see in the White House. However, we must be careful what we pray for Mr. Trump ALSO has all the makings of a first-class demagogue.
I've been encouraged to see the brilliant, good-humored, soft-spoken Dr. Carson quietly assuming a high position among the various contenders. That gives me hope the electorate may not be as moronic as they too often appear.
Try not to be too discouraged. I think that once we get rid of that Cancer in the White House and his Wife , we have a chance to get back to normalcy here in America. However if we continue to elect these liberal A-holes and denigrate everything to do with government. Is it reasonable to believe that this one time most wonderful country on the planet, will go down in flames.
ReplyDeleteMr. Free Thinke said;
ReplyDelete"Mr. Trump certainly has a flamboyant populist message that resonates all-too-well with the justifiably angry electorate, but he has yet to back his grandiose claims with a solid plan of action, so I'm disinclined to think his bombastic, carnival barker approach to campaining is The Solution we've been looking for."
Well Mr. Thinke, with all due respect, who has?
Certainly NOT sny of the Douchbags that are running on the Left, and I don't see any one on the republican ticket except possibly Mr. Rubio either. Do for the time being, I'll stick with Mr Trump.
Halloween is coming up and I heard Obama will go disguised as a world leader.
ReplyDeleteWhat more could white guilt moron racist patronizing liberals do for blacks that the dumb white guilt moron racist patronizing liberals already do?
ReplyDeleteWhile these dumbass libs echo their Dumbass in the White House about more and more Gun Laws, none of them have a answer to the situation. But they still shoutout the same old thing!
ReplyDeleteNever having any resolution to the problem at all, just saying we need more Gun Laws.
When the sad fact is, nobody mentions that you cannot stop criminals and crazies with any law that they ignore or consciously refuse to accept. Not one reporter has the balls to stand up to Obama and ask him “just what laws are you promoting when you say gun control and how would that have stopped this tragic event?” or “do you mean we could eliminate all DUI deaths and traffic accidents by banning cars?” And, if he argues the point, ask him to compare the usage of vehicles to the usage of guns by law-abiding citizens.
Great news, The OAN/GRAVIS and Reuters Show Donald Trump Surging ......Trump 32% Carson 12% with Bush at 10% .
ReplyDeleteAnd in the Democratic Party, A Candidate Named "Hez Nuts" Is Surging In Presidential Polls! Hopefully you Progressives wont be too disappointed, because it's not going to be Hillary.
Yes you libs... We know that you Progressives hate Donald Trump for being everything your liberal nominees aren't, like a patriot, like someone that wants to bring back greatness to America, and we heard all the stupid names that you constantly call him and yet you support a Hypocritical, Corrupt, Lying Pig. And don't forget that nauseated Chelsea who seems to have inherited all the bad parts from both of her LYING Parents. donors…. They both money-hungry hypocritical witch’s who will do anything for money.
ReplyDeleteAnd you have the nerve to sit there behind your computers and say that Donald Trunp is a “Clown with Funny Hair”.. Wow, isn’t that special!
Especially when the list of Thunder Thighs’s Scandals are so long, I couldn’t fit them all into one comment. But the one that I like best is the one as the First Lady, ThunderThighs visited our troops deployed to Bosnia, She later recalled her helicopter landing under sniper fire, and she and her LYING Daughter had to duck and run to find shelter...but news footage of her arrival there clearly disproved her recollection. She was actually greeted on the airstrip by dozens of people, including an 8-year-old girl who gave her a poem and thanked her for President Bill Clinton’s decision to send a peacekeeping force to the region. She responded by saying she was overtired and “misspoke”..Yes It was absolutely incredible, how our First Lady, soon to be our Secrtary of State, and now the front runner in her party for the presidency could just LIE so blatantly to the American people. She makes Brian Williams look like a Boy Scout.
Who would have thought that Scumbag Bill had all the class in the family?
The woman is delusional. She lives in a fantasy world where she is the Queen and the rest of the world her subjects.
And lets not forget that instead of the Hilderbeast being outraged against her husband for being a sexual predator, and a serial rapist, Hillary repeatedly smeared and attacked Bill’s victims. Hillary called Monica Lewinsky, a “narcissistic looney toon” in private conversations with confidante Diane Blair. She called Gennifer Flowers “trailer trash.” Clinton rape victim Juanita Broaddrick said Hillary Clinton threatened her in person only two weeks after she was violated by Bill Clinton.
Doesn’t it strike anyone as strange that the only candidate for the Democratic Party’s nomination to be the next President of the United States is the wife of an impeached President?
What Gall! God help this country if she ever become our president.
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ReplyDeleteWhy will I vote for Donald Trump? Well to tell you the truth there are many reasons. Maybe, it’s just the fact that they can't buy him, and have been throwing everything but the kitchen sink at him, and he's still polling on top of the heap should be enough.
ReplyDeleteActually in all fairness , I feel he is Kicking Ass with those running in the republican race more so then when he first announced his candidacy
If you are fed up with the crap we have taken from a Communist & terrorist loving poser currently in the WH, Then trump is the answer. He's smart enough to have the BEST of the BEST working for the American people if elected....instead of a bunch of Muslim brotherhood supporters inside the WH including his trusted adviser, that Iranian bitch, Valerie Jarrett! Or like giving the Iranians $150 Billion and Nukes with a signature from a traitor president, and didn't have the balls to declare it a TREATY?...They are still yelling DEATH TO AMERICA, in spite of it all.
Is there another leader who can deliver a speech as moving and powerful as Netanyahu today? A big part of why he is so good is because he is a mental giant, a Churchillian figure of great strength, intelligence, bravery and character. Unlike the asshole we have in office today. Watch this speech and be objective, it's like watching a historical figure in action. Years later we will be glad we were around to hear and see him speak:
ReplyDeletePrime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu paused his speech before the United Nations General Assembly on Thursday for 45 seconds to protest what he called the "utter silence" from most of the world on the Iran's threats to the destruction of his nation
He said when he resumed. "If Iran's rulers were working to destroy your countries, perhaps you'd be less enthusiastic about the deal."
Netanyahu was referring to the recently struck Iranian nuclear deal, celebrated not only in Iran, but also by Democrats in the United States. Republicans, and Netanyahu, say the deal gives Iran more access to nuclear weapons, not less.
Netanyahu has more testosterone in his fingernail clippings than Obama does in his entire being.
The sad factor is that not on of these bleeding heart progressive idiots fail to mentions is that you cannot stop these so called mental cases, criminals, and or crazies with any law that they ignore or consciously refuse to accept. As it has been said over and over again, these people if you wish to call them people, I prefer to call them wild animals, don't obey laws, or abide by the system. Not one reporter, and not even our dear leader has addressed that. And no one has the balls to stand up to Obama and just ask him “just what laws are you promoting when you say gun control and how would that have stopped this tragic event?” or “do you mean we could eliminate all DUI deaths and traffic accidents by banning cars?” And, if he argues the point, ask him to compare the usage of vehicles to the usage of guns by law-abiding honest leagal Gun owning citizens.
ReplyDeleteSo maybe more people should be looking for other alternatives, like voting for a president who has the guts to tell it like it is, and what it is, is that more Ann more of these shootings and killings are being done either by Muslims, Blacks, or by whites who have been requited by Muslim Terrorists.
Why must everyone attack Mr. Obama? He is doing the best he can.
ReplyDeleteNot doing very well, though, is he?
Delete- Bhaskar Balagar
ReplyDeleteAmerica needs to wake the hell up and realize they are coming to kill us!! The Government has totally divided us a country... The media only fuels those fires and encourages racism and hate..we are distracted by bs on the news like Bruce Jenner wants to play dress up and our country is being stolen right from under our noses! I am completely in agreement that if we had a real AMERICAN President with some guts, those folks would already be remembering who the hell America is again! I have been in shock ever since Obummer even made it on the ballot considering he is a fucking foreigner but the fact that America voted him into office TWICE appalls me:( The fact that he hasn't been impeached and thrown in jail shows some serious ignorance just saying and that includes HELLORY too.. Our Government is a bunch of crap.. I say overthrow their asses, put Trump in office and let's kick their goat humping asses out of our country!
I don't think your characterization is all that helpful IIar, I am certainly to the left of you and therefore would be liberal by comparison. Yet I do not fit your stereotypical description of the loony toons on the left with respect to this issue. Certainly I am not alone as there are many others similarly placed politically. But I will acknowledge that the internet seems to attract the radical left extremests . However you do make sense, despite your extremests views.
ReplyDeleteAs for Hillary, I must admit that she is the lowest of the low and I can't understand anyone in any party wanting to wast a vote on that piece of Trash,
Bottom line …
ReplyDeleteUntil we find someone who has the courage – or in Donald Trump’s case, the lack of consequences – to speak the truth, we will be foundering Around with people like Obama, Moochie, Hillary, and Bernie and other members of the socialistic way where the enlightened elites continue to tell us how to live our lives.
Progressives have encouraged and embraced the 'thug culture.
DeleteDegenerates lining up to buy violent video games and watch violent movies. Violent thug music.
Legalising an 'entry drug'.
Moral decay is the Progressive's plan to destroy the country. And it's working.
The most violent dangerous shit hole cities are ALL run by Progressive negroes not surprisingly.
They found the right leader to help them... leader all right.
Have any of you heard Our Dear Leader Obama was venting his anger over the heroin problem in Chicago his “home town”? Have you heard him specifically address the EIGHT shootings that happen last Sunday night? But I’ll bet you DID hear his speech about Gun Control and his agenda for 15 minutes while he allotted 2 minutes to speak about the 9 victims!
ReplyDeleteI haven’t heard a lot of Libtard “chatter” about the heroin overdoses in Chicago either but I’m sure that all of the Libtard Progressives are simply beside themselves, tearing out their hair, wringing their hands in anguish because of the guns! Well did the “Guns” get up all by themselves, and marched off to shoot and possibly kill innocent men, women, children and the assorted gang rivals but are truly surprised that the drugs and needles didn’t.
Guns are inanimate objects, syringes and drugs are inanimate objects and are incapable of being used unless someone exercises their FREE WILL to use them.
The United States, and most areas OF the United States have some very strict laws regarding HARD DRUGS, and heroin is a very HARD DRUG.
Chicago has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, so, tell me how it is that Chicago has so many shootings and once again this sudden rise in heroin usage that IS, without a doubt, going to kill a lot of those that overdose?
I haven’t heard the Libtards on the radio, or on TV, or read about this on facebook screaming to “Ban the Syringe”, have you?
Look, I am very much against ILLEGAL Guns being in the hands of anyone that is not a Legally Licensed Person who is entitled to buy, own or carry them as much as anyone else is.. And I am also very much against the use of illegal drugs or the abuse of legal drugs in a recreational manner or not! And I myself am NOT a Gun Owner, BUT I am NOT for taking away our Rights in any way shape or form. I am NOT for taking guns from the hands of HONEST Americans, or, another impossibility, removing ALL illegal drugs from this nation, what do we do when MORONS exercise their FREE WILL and take up the gun, the needle, the pipe or whatever the hell is currently the popular tool of the day is?
My conclusion, at this point in time is that America has been deeply polarized by the progressive socialist democrats and their creation of victims who must rely on the democrat party to redress their grievances and the republicans, so fearful of losing what little power they may have, refuse to set out a bold platform that differentiates them from the “other” corrupt party. The Democratic Party is being run by the liberals to the point where the are close to being a marxist, commies. And it's us who will suffer the consequences that manifest of their choices.
ReplyDeleteHow many sane, able bodied adult Americans refuse to work an available job in favor of living off of federal or state funds, because of Obama?
ReplyDeleteTo many to count
DeleteI admit that there may be a FEW far left individuals advocating the ban on gun ownership, but it is by no means MANY. There is no mainstream progressive movement to ban gun ownership.
ReplyDeleteYou are just fanning the flames
Who is "you," and where is such a claim in the featured post?
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