Not sure. What was the point of the trial? He'd already been tried, convicted and lynched in the media before the verdict came down. Almost like justice in the USSR.
Some questions need to be answered about all the people around the finish line with black packs and black baseball caps. Were they all on the same team?
Do you think there's a possibility that fellow could be innocent? Even if others you mention were involved, criminal suspects are always tried individually. I believe this Tsarnaev boy admitted to the crime. The question is not if, but how he should be punished. Frankly, I think life in prison for such a young person would be worse than a quick death.
Katherine, I don't think he would be totally innocent, he was there. I'd say that there's lots of trolling going on to draw out fringe type loonies that could be attracted to the idea that they'll be participating in some sort of clandestine activity. Say like participating in some action sponsored to test the response of the system to some terrorist act. Only to find out at the last minute they've been duped and left standing at the scene of an actual crime. Seems that it's been successful in the past like say 9/11.
Nobody would ever suspect the Jews, they're the "victims" ... always. And always ready to scream anti-Semitism and the trained and beaten dogs are ready to cower in a corner at the mere mention of the code word—anti-Semite.
Sorry, Elmo, but your comment was not relevant to either of the Tsarnaev bothers act of murder, mayhem and wanton destruction or to the method of punishment they deserve.
NOT! Death is too humane for this monstrous POS animal.
Life behind bars with NO possibility of parole. Actually even this is too humane. He should be confined to solitary confinement until he dies from prison rot.
We the taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for what would likely be a very long period of incarceration. Our tax dollars should pay for something more worthwhile.
Frankly, I think spending life in prison would be more horrible than being painlessly executed on an operating table. I think it's much too bad he couldn't have been shot dead while he was being captured, and that would have been the end of it right there -- and a most fitting end, indeed.
HOWEVER, the bleeding hearts must have their say, and of course they would prolong the agony of indecision till Kingdom Come, if they could.
This is the trouble with keeping such a troublesome figure alive. Thanks to cockamamie organizations like the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center there will ALWAYS be some crack-brained leftist or Islamaniac with a high-powered, grandstanding Jewish attorney with a very Big Mouth eager to make a very BIG NAME for himself who will relentlessly try to manipulate the system in order to free the creature. You know the Left is far more capable than we at waging Wars of Attrition.
After a while the leftists usually get just about anything they want, because some spineless, weak-minded fool in power will do ANYTHING just to get the bastards to SHUT UP.
Once a creature like The Joker is DEAD, however, he can't be freed, and is, therefore, far less likely to be a source of future trouble.
If he is allowed to live, sooner or later the Left will manage to make a Folk Hero out of him –– mark my words.
Since the punishment phase will take place in Assachusetts, the veritable belly of the Liberal Beast, it's highly unlikely the jury will invoke the death penalty.
You, of course, have it exactly right, FT, and presented your position with customary eloquence. Too bad most are listening only to the dinning inside their own skulls instead of seeking enlightenment.
Yes but being cruel to a perpetrator does nothing to make up for the loss to the victims of their crime. The old idea of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is an outmoded, ineffective idea of Justice.
Would you support having Tsarnaev's legs surgically removed and his eyes put out, or deliberately infecting him with a slow acting terminal disease and then setting him free to suffer as a pariah? Would that satisfy your thirst for vengeance?
Only is he dies as a result. Life is unfair, get used to it. If you want Justice, seek G_d, not me. Cuz with me, there's only 'just is".
If they don't kill Tsarnaev, we've got no further need for Government in this country. Because it's only the Execution that creates the "space" within which government can operate. (Joseph d'Maistre, "St. Peterseberg Letters")
I'm against the death penalty, so I favor life in prison for this guy. Given the precedents he'll probably get the death penalty. The only thing that could keep him alive is the general attitude in that part of the country that the death penalty is not a power the government should have.
But leftwing progs like you grant government every other power under the sun.
Only morally-adrift leftwing wackadoos could cheer a woman's right to kill her baby in the womb but cry big boo hoo tears over a murderer getting his ultimate just desserts.
The American left is a granola bowl of nuts and fruits and flakes.
Silver, I wouldn't cry for this guy, and really, you're not stupid enough to believe that's what this is about. I, like many other people, left, right, and center, simply do not want the government to have the power. And you are also not stupid enough to believe we lefties want the government to have every power under the sun. Only a fool like AoW would believe that nonsense. We've been calling for reining in the police state, the most powerful force of government and most prevalent in our daily lives, for example, for decades now. So stop lying about what other people believe, please. It makes you look like a backwards dumb hick.
Life behind bars with NO possibility of parole. Actually even this is too humane. He should be confined to solitary confinement until he dies from prison rot.
That comes under the heading of "cruel and unusual punishment" and so it would be unconstitutional as well as inhumane. What good would it do the victims anyway? We need to think more constructively and less emotionally.
Oh yeah, Les. It doesn't get much worse than what this guy did. Maybe that school shooting in CT? I don't know. It's all horrifically morbid. But yes, I couldn't imagine anything other than pending the rest of his life in prison.
As for our prisons... that's another matter, or, I should say, another thing we Americans should be deeply ashamed of. But that's for another day...
I must agree on the prison issue and the whole rush to incarceration over non violent crime such as drug abuse and dependency to name just one example.
Nothing cruel and unusual about blowing up eight year old children, 16 people with lost limbs, 264 wounded, untold hundreds traumatized, just put a bullet in his brain and be done with it.
Well, since the FBI had received information about the possibility that the Tsarnaev brothers were being radicalized an their home country from that home country, and that the FBI did check out their activities here in 2011, they were given a pass.
So is that where this would end after interviewing these brothers back in 2011? And no further checks were done even after the mysterious murders of some close associates of the older brother? If so, it's a sad and sorry state to be living in, blindly accepting at face value the slop that's pushed into your faces every day, never questioning who's behind it and for what purpose.
Anyone with a lick of sense would know--ithat this guy and ALL others like him need to be PUT OUT OF THEIR OWN MISSERY This is not rocket science. Death to the Radical Sons of Bitches!
The people that actually support these turds such as those progressives over there, is testament to their stupidity. These are thair comrades and brainwashed sympathisers.
Common sense would also show that being an "enemy of the state" is a subjective definition. Your turn will come ... That ain't rocket science either. Just observation of the real world.
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Hell yes! And shut up that mouthy bitch of a mother of his. That harridan needs a good sitdown in ol' Sparky as well.
ReplyDeleteHow vivid!
Delete-----------------> Katharine Heartburn
It is apparent that the mother does not know her place. Her husband is guilty of not beating her enough. Such women are a danger.
DeleteAmen! Now where the hell's my sammich!?
DeleteNot sure. What was the point of the trial? He'd already been tried, convicted and lynched in the media before the verdict came down. Almost like justice in the USSR.
ReplyDeleteSome questions need to be answered about all the people around the finish line with black packs and black baseball caps. Were they all on the same team?
Do you think there's a possibility that fellow could be innocent? Even if others you mention were involved, criminal suspects are always tried individually. I believe this Tsarnaev boy admitted to the crime. The question is not if, but how he should be punished. Frankly, I think life in prison for such a young person would be worse than a quick death.
Delete-------------------> Katharine Heartburn
Koo Koo! Koo koo!
DeleteShhhhhh... maybe it was the joooos....
Some questions need to be answered about conspiracy kooks with tinfoil hats. Yeah, they on the same team, but it ain't mine
Katherine, I don't think he would be totally innocent, he was there. I'd say that there's lots of trolling going on to draw out fringe type loonies that could be attracted to the idea that they'll be participating in some sort of clandestine activity. Say like participating in some action sponsored to test the response of the system to some terrorist act. Only to find out at the last minute they've been duped and left standing at the scene of an actual crime. Seems that it's been successful in the past like say 9/11.
DeleteNobody would ever suspect the Jews, they're the "victims" ... always. And always ready to scream anti-Semitism and the trained and beaten dogs are ready to cower in a corner at the mere mention of the code word—anti-Semite.
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ReplyDeleteSorry, Elmo, but your comment was not relevant to either of the Tsarnaev bothers act of murder, mayhem and wanton destruction or to the method of punishment they deserve.
DeleteNOT! Death is too humane for this monstrous POS animal.
ReplyDeleteLife behind bars with NO possibility of parole. Actually even this is too humane. He should be confined to solitary confinement until he dies from prison rot.
Death penalty.
ReplyDeleteWe the taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for what would likely be a very long period of incarceration. Our tax dollars should pay for something more worthwhile.
According to this:
A person serving a life sentence for 60 years would cost taxpayers four million five hundred and sixty thousand for cost to keep them in jail.
I don't know if the source is accurate. Perhaps somebody else in this thread can find data which is more reliable.
Frankly, I think spending life in prison would be more horrible than being painlessly executed on an operating table. I think it's much too bad he couldn't have been shot dead while he was being captured, and that would have been the end of it right there -- and a most fitting end, indeed.
DeleteHOWEVER, the bleeding hearts must have their say, and of course they would prolong the agony of indecision till Kingdom Come, if they could.
This is the trouble with keeping such a troublesome figure alive. Thanks to cockamamie organizations like the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center there will ALWAYS be some crack-brained leftist or Islamaniac with a high-powered, grandstanding Jewish attorney with a very Big Mouth eager to make a very BIG NAME for himself who will relentlessly try to manipulate the system in order to free the creature. You know the Left is far more capable than we at waging Wars of Attrition.
After a while the leftists usually get just about anything they want, because some spineless, weak-minded fool in power will do ANYTHING just to get the bastards to SHUT UP.
Once a creature like The Joker is DEAD, however, he can't be freed, and is, therefore, far less likely to be a source of future trouble.
If he is allowed to live, sooner or later the Left will manage to make a Folk Hero out of him –– mark my words.
Since the punishment phase will take place in Assachusetts, the veritable belly of the Liberal Beast, it's highly unlikely the jury will invoke the death penalty.
You, of course, have it exactly right, FT, and presented your position with customary eloquence. Too bad most are listening only to the dinning inside their own skulls instead of seeking enlightenment.
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ReplyDeletethumbs down.
Alistair MacKenzie said
DeleteBut he's little more than a child. He couldn't have known what he was doing. He deserves a chance at rehabilitation.
So did all those kids who died or who's legs were blown off by him.
DeleteThersites,
DeleteExactly!
Alistair MacKenzie said
DeleteYes but being cruel to a perpetrator does nothing to make up for the loss to the victims of their crime. The old idea of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is an outmoded, ineffective idea of Justice.
Would you support having Tsarnaev's legs surgically removed and his eyes put out, or deliberately infecting him with a slow acting terminal disease and then setting him free to suffer as a pariah? Would that satisfy your thirst for vengeance?
Only is he dies as a result. Life is unfair, get used to it. If you want Justice, seek G_d, not me. Cuz with me, there's only 'just is".
DeleteIf they don't kill Tsarnaev, we've got no further need for Government in this country. Because it's only the Execution that creates the "space" within which government can operate. (Joseph d'Maistre, "St. Peterseberg Letters")
Death, and if they can't find anyone to do it, they can give me a call.
ReplyDeleteHow bloodthirsty and hopelessly unenlightened you are! Shame on you for being such a boor.
Delete+++ Tanya Lerner +++
No, not bloodthirsty, just a realist. Shame on you for being such a fool.
DeleteI'm against the death penalty, so I favor life in prison for this guy. Given the precedents he'll probably get the death penalty. The only thing that could keep him alive is the general attitude in that part of the country that the death penalty is not a power the government should have.
ReplyDeleteJMJ
But leftwing progs like you grant government every other power under the sun.
DeleteOnly morally-adrift leftwing wackadoos could cheer a woman's right to kill her baby in the womb but cry big boo hoo tears over a murderer getting his ultimate just desserts.
The American left is a granola bowl of nuts and fruits and flakes.
SF,
DeleteSpot-on comment!
Silver, I wouldn't cry for this guy, and really, you're not stupid enough to believe that's what this is about. I, like many other people, left, right, and center, simply do not want the government to have the power. And you are also not stupid enough to believe we lefties want the government to have every power under the sun. Only a fool like AoW would believe that nonsense. We've been calling for reining in the police state, the most powerful force of government and most prevalent in our daily lives, for example, for decades now. So stop lying about what other people believe, please. It makes you look like a backwards dumb hick.
DeleteJMJ
Life behind bars with NO possibility of parole. Actually even this is too humane. He should be confined to solitary confinement until he dies from prison rot.
ReplyDeleteWould that work for ya Jersey?
Alistair MacKenzie said
DeleteThat comes under the heading of "cruel and unusual punishment" and so it would be unconstitutional as well as inhumane. What good would it do the victims anyway? We need to think more constructively and less emotionally.
Oh yeah, Les. It doesn't get much worse than what this guy did. Maybe that school shooting in CT? I don't know. It's all horrifically morbid. But yes, I couldn't imagine anything other than pending the rest of his life in prison.
DeleteAs for our prisons... that's another matter, or, I should say, another thing we Americans should be deeply ashamed of. But that's for another day...
JMJ
I must agree on the prison issue and the whole rush to incarceration over non violent crime such as drug abuse and dependency to name just one example.
DeleteNothing cruel and unusual about blowing up eight year old children, 16 people with lost limbs, 264 wounded, untold hundreds traumatized, just put a bullet in his brain and be done with it.
DeleteWell, since the FBI had received information about the possibility that the Tsarnaev brothers were being radicalized an their home country from that home country, and that the FBI did check out their activities here in 2011, they were given a pass.
ReplyDeleteSo is that where this would end after interviewing these brothers back in 2011? And no further checks were done even after the mysterious murders of some close associates of the older brother? If so, it's a sad and sorry state to be living in, blindly accepting at face value the slop that's pushed into your faces every day, never questioning who's behind it and for what purpose.
The Weimar Republic—deja vu, all over again.
Anyone with a lick of sense would know--ithat this guy and ALL others like him need to be PUT OUT OF THEIR OWN MISSERY This is not rocket science.
ReplyDeleteDeath to the Radical Sons of Bitches!
The people that actually support these turds such as those progressives over there, is testament to their stupidity. These are thair comrades and brainwashed sympathisers.
ReplyDeleteCommon sense would also show that being an "enemy of the state" is a subjective definition. Your turn will come ... That ain't rocket science either. Just observation of the real world.
ReplyDelete