tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post452996065176464334..comments2023-10-17T08:19:58.196-04:00Comments on FreeThinke: FreeThinkehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-13186299645252225992015-02-11T13:50:53.618-05:002015-02-11T13:50:53.618-05:00See Finntann's explanations, he's very cle...See Finntann's explanations, he's very clear about this.jeznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-29244394744660672752015-02-11T13:14:18.167-05:002015-02-11T13:14:18.167-05:00Time will tell ...
How could government intervent...Time will tell ...<br /><br />How could government intervention have anything to do with improving the quality or speed of existing technology? Government creates nothing but taxes and strangling regulations. Government does not develop new and improved technology.FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-25416328198849329422015-02-09T14:33:50.964-05:002015-02-09T14:33:50.964-05:00Nope, it's got nothing to do with suppressing ...Nope, it's got nothing to do with suppressing certain points of view, in fact it's got nothing to do with content. It's only concerned with the speed of the network.jeznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-38112605905252963822015-02-09T05:35:23.660-05:002015-02-09T05:35:23.660-05:00This is the way I see it. Please correct me if I a...This is the way I see it. Please correct me if I am wrong: "Net Neutrality" is just another typical obfuscatory leftist-journalist-bureacrat-generated term -- like "Pro-Choice," "Climate Change," "Marriage Equality" or "Income Equality." <br /><br />ALL such frames of reference favor tighter, more restrictive more aggressive government supervision of virtually every move we make and every breath we take.<br /><br />The so-called FAIRNESS DOCTRINE was the last such attempt to reign in Freedom of Expression. It was aimed at the RIGHT, of course because LEFTIST Talk Radio appeared DOA in the free marketplace.<br /><br />NOW, if I read "them" right, they are certain to do what Red China and North Korea have already done and what Stalin's Soviet Union used to do, and that is VILIFY, SUPPRESS and PUNISH OPPOSITION.<br /><br />Obama's idea of Net Neutrality is surely designed to KILL Free Speech on the internet.<br /><br />While I detest about 85% of the crap that gets posted all over YouTube and the Blogosphere, I believe ONLY in the right of Blog Owners to censor their own comments sections -- a MUST if one hopes to maintain an atmosphere in which meaningful, civilized discourse can take place. FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-73271978468471555502015-02-09T04:28:37.955-05:002015-02-09T04:28:37.955-05:00No, the net is currently neutral. It's not an ...No, the net is currently neutral. It's not an answer looking for a problem, it's a condition that's worth preserving. It is a conservative position. It could be that Farmer's right and it'd result in accelerated innovation, progress and lower costs. But I think it's unlikely: it would be a dangerous experiment.<br /><br />Take your point about the fed govt. (Maybe the UN should enforce it instead. :)jeznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-2344375315585171652015-02-08T09:05:21.696-05:002015-02-08T09:05:21.696-05:00The LP is my favourite format too. :)The LP is my favourite format too. :)jeznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-63709734896701197882015-02-08T09:02:59.527-05:002015-02-08T09:02:59.527-05:00When talking about networks I often use verbs like...When talking about networks I often use verbs like "traverse" or "span."jeznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-4709432500180657912015-02-07T10:48:21.892-05:002015-02-07T10:48:21.892-05:00Also Jez, my larger concern is that the federal go...Also Jez, my larger concern is that the federal government has screwed up everything it got its grimy mitts on.<br /><br />The two markets most penetrated by the US federal government (and I use 'penetrated' deliberately) are education and health care. Theya re also the most distorted markets. Costs are sky-high, we have artificial shortages, grotesque amounts of paperwork and waste...<br /><br />It's horrible. Get the government involved in the internet, and we'll be back to carrying packets by pony express within a decade.<br /><br />But seriously, or government is horribly corrupt, and that is where the real harm will enter in. Instead of companies bargaining out solutions, they will instead Schmear off some politicians to get an advantage over the competition. Contracts will get awarded based on political connections, all to the detriment of our digital infrastructure.<br /><br />That is how it is here in the Corporatist State of America.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-41029369270909059842015-02-07T10:40:41.105-05:002015-02-07T10:40:41.105-05:00But Jez, customers and providers are paying for Qo...But Jez, customers and providers are paying for QoS right now, so Net Neutrality is an answer looking for a problem.<br /><br />I don't think as much pipe-pinching goes on as people think. It could turn into a real tit for tat. Say we're two big players who own substantial chunks of infrastructure. You clamp me down, I'll do the same to you. <br /><br />My point is, all these guys want to make money (and it is accepted by pretty much every one that they also all want to herd us into their proprietary walled garden), and they are going to cooperate with one another so far as that cooperation is beneficial.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-32280979066753030982015-02-07T08:09:40.696-05:002015-02-07T08:09:40.696-05:00typo: I don't mean against, I mean for.typo: I don't mean <i>against</i>, I mean <i>for</i>.jeznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-41982744663612915802015-02-07T04:46:54.646-05:002015-02-07T04:46:54.646-05:00http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/06/republican-fcc-c...http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/06/republican-fcc-commissioner-slams-obamas-332-page-plan-to-regulate-the-internet/<br /><br />EXCERPT: “President Obama’s plan marks a monumental shift toward government control of the Internet. It gives the FCC the power to micromanage virtually every aspect of how the Internet works,” Pai said. “The plan explicitly opens the door to billions of dollars in new taxes on broadband… These new taxes will mean higher prices for consumers and more hidden fees that they have to pay.”<br /><br />"In his initial cursory overview of the plan, the commissioner said it would hinder broadband investment, slow network speed and expansion, limit outgrowth to rural areas of the country and reduce Internet service provider (ISP) competition.<br />“The plan saddles small, independent businesses and entrepreneurs with heavy-handed regulations that will push them out of the market,” Pai said. “As a result, Americans will have fewer broadband choices. <br /><br />"This is no accident. Title II was designed to regulate a monopoly. If we impose that model on a vibrant broadband marketplace, a highly regulated monopoly is what we’ll get.”FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-75114010563639428382015-02-07T02:30:54.295-05:002015-02-07T02:30:54.295-05:00Under a non-neutral net, what makes you think your...Under a non-neutral net, what makes you think your heart surgeon would get priority. Far more likely that YouTube would negotiate a favourable deal, isn't it?<br />My argument against net neutrality is in part a QoS one. If the net isn't neutral, your agreed QoS becomes meaningless. Finntann has the clearest explanation of it that I've seen.jeznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-52613647143573339932015-02-07T02:25:12.616-05:002015-02-07T02:25:12.616-05:00Net neutrality has (or should have) nothing to do ...Net neutrality has (or should have) nothing to do with censorship. If there's a bill calling itself "net neutrality" but carrying censorship clauses, I'm against it. Is there?jeznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-67549442453142415582015-02-06T19:55:10.177-05:002015-02-06T19:55:10.177-05:00Anybody who voted for Obama already lacks any cre...Anybody who voted for Obama already lacks any credibility as to character, let alone judgement of it.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-87808538653125954012015-02-06T19:51:08.612-05:002015-02-06T19:51:08.612-05:00Fine, let the packets find a different-faster path...Fine, let the packets find a different-faster path. Smart people will figure it out, if the Routers don't.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-87694720168004771742015-02-06T17:51:00.197-05:002015-02-06T17:51:00.197-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Harlan from Texasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-13364001676524364382015-02-06T17:36:00.656-05:002015-02-06T17:36:00.656-05:00Anyone who thinks government can 'fix' an ...Anyone who thinks government can 'fix' an internet that is not broken has their head up their ass.<br /><br />Ever heard of QoS? People pay for guaranteed levels of it.<br /><br />Is your stupid YouTube video of cigar eating baboons 'equal' to my grandma's video teleconference consultation with her heart surgeon?<br /><br />Hell, let's throw out subjectivity and get down to technological brass tacks. Are UDP packets treated the same as TCP packets? Should they be?<br /><br />Go ask the bureaucrats who have screwed up our education and health care markets and driven prices sky high.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-64248277886550387362015-02-06T17:35:49.366-05:002015-02-06T17:35:49.366-05:00Jersey, try to stop being a caricature of yourself...Jersey, try to stop being a caricature of yourself, will you?<br /><br />No sensible person could possibly believe that YOU could possibly believe what you SAY you believe.<br /><br />FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-10680549195322013742015-02-06T17:29:47.449-05:002015-02-06T17:29:47.449-05:00With my imperfect understanding why this is consid...With my imperfect understanding why this is considered an issue I imagined most would be concerned about GOVERNMENT CONTROL of what we are "permitted" to see, hear and transmit to one another. The very thought is eerily reminiscent of how Red China and North Korea restrict their peoples' access to knowledge the regimes" deem potentially harmful to the totalitarian control they enjoy.<br /><br />Since I have a will, a fair amount of education and well-formed tastes, I don't give a damn about the availability of pornography, instructions on how to make a bomb, or even the presence of Rock 'n Roll and Gangstah cRap. ;-)<br /><br />The only way to lead the people away from the paths of Temptation, Destruction and potential Ruin would be to EDUCATE them PROPERLY.<br /><br />And that, of course, we know is the very LAST thing The Oiigarchs would like to see.FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-57062706440315669902015-02-06T17:20:44.688-05:002015-02-06T17:20:44.688-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Information You Deservenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-66955825439541136212015-02-06T17:09:38.274-05:002015-02-06T17:09:38.274-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.“Don’t Bother Me With Facts!”https://www.blogger.com/profile/12095434886645236079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-9416982943439335662015-02-06T17:04:22.607-05:002015-02-06T17:04:22.607-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.“Don’t Bother Me With Facts!”https://www.blogger.com/profile/12095434886645236079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-70832551638498333942015-02-06T16:17:28.417-05:002015-02-06T16:17:28.417-05:00INDUBITAbLY!<b>INDUBITAbLY!</b> FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-42136807215362319712015-02-06T16:14:10.698-05:002015-02-06T16:14:10.698-05:00I knew it was some kind of jargon. Nothing wrong w...I knew it was some kind of jargon. Nothing wrong with that, but it sounded strange to my inner ear. I would still prefer to say transfer, transmit, transport, even <i>send</i>, but I realize I'm trying to sweep an ocean back with a broom.FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-55180102046938708982015-02-06T15:51:58.784-05:002015-02-06T15:51:58.784-05:00Thersites, you're not getting it. There is no...Thersites, you're not getting it. There is not a Comcast internet, a Verizon internet, a Century Link Internet... there is one internet and it is the compilation of them all. When you download a webpage one packet might transit Comcast, another may transit Verizon, and a third may transit Century Link... each piece of the jigsaw puzzle finding a different path from the source to your home. The issue isn't Comcast throttling it's customers data (I have no problem with that, you can as you say always switch providers), the issue is Comcast trying to throttle data going from Verizon to Century Link. By discriminating against data transiting its network a provider is violating the operating rules that the system was constructed under, in essence throwing a wrench in the whole damn works.Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.com