tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post2726964651961965439..comments2023-10-17T08:19:58.196-04:00Comments on FreeThinke: FreeThinkehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-31877959289621794972013-04-11T16:17:54.103-04:002013-04-11T16:17:54.103-04:00I have long considered the feral children running ...I have long considered the feral children running criminally amok in our streets to be the "Lord of the Flies" generation.<br /><br />AndieDivine Theatrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02553420826262806110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-70253244636383796292013-04-11T07:48:04.357-04:002013-04-11T07:48:04.357-04:00Thanks, Z. The polarization one grows stronger wit...Thanks, Z. The polarization one grows stronger with all the repetitious propaganda and "talking points" we allow to substitute for genuine THOUGHT.<br /><br />Instead of mindlessly repeating clichés picked up by osmosis, each person owes it to himself to think things through using the principles of good, old-fashioned common sense.<br /><br />That's the only I know of that mght break the current "log jam" in public discourse.<br /><br />My advice would be: <b>DON'T LET THE <i>MEDIA</i> -- or your favorite PRESSURE GROUP -- DO YOUR THINKING <i>FOR</i> YOU.</b>FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-76118015370221229962013-04-10T23:07:06.281-04:002013-04-10T23:07:06.281-04:00Don't forget, FT...we Republicans who adore Dr...Don't forget, FT...we Republicans who adore Dr Ben Carson and would vote for ANY BLACK MAN OR WOMAN WITH OUR VIEWPOINTS are RACIST according to the liberal above.<br />Does he KNOW how stupid that really sounds!:? :-)<br /><br />Come on by tomorrow...there's a post you can sink your teeth into!Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-19980281045677419572013-04-10T20:16:36.524-04:002013-04-10T20:16:36.524-04:00Of course you are correct, AOW.
Tomorrow's po...Of course you are correct, AOW.<br /><br />Tomorrow's post, which started as a response to you here and then became too detailed will attempt to expand on views presented in this discussion. I hope to see you there.<br /><br />I appreciate everyone's input. Even remarks I disagree with or sentiments that rub me the wrong way still reveal much about the human condition.<br /><br /><b>EVERY LEGITIMATE OPINION is WORTH CONSIDERING.</b>FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-68402238621005659662013-04-10T18:23:33.231-04:002013-04-10T18:23:33.231-04:00Methinks that there is a bit of racism in every pe...Methinks that there is a bit of racism in every person on the planet. Human beings -- like all higher mammals -- have an inherent suspicion of "the other." And race is the obvious manifestation of "the other."<br /><br />How one behaves toward "the other" is what matters, IMO.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-12437584968985143232013-04-10T17:51:55.445-04:002013-04-10T17:51:55.445-04:00Freek Thinke,and the rest of your ilk, YOU ARE A ...Freek Thinke,and the rest of your ilk, YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN, THEREFORE YOU ARE A RACIST, no matter how hard you may try, you just can’t hide it. .The Most Interesting Man in the Worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06139603300668910468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-82417086830800811702013-04-10T15:39:38.250-04:002013-04-10T15:39:38.250-04:00Intolerance of the other's intolerance (not my...Intolerance of the other's intolerance (not my own). That's the ticket!Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-91681928655754645252013-04-10T13:59:59.947-04:002013-04-10T13:59:59.947-04:00Yeah but what about "RACISM?"
Isn't...<br />Yeah but what about "RACISM?"<br /><br />Isn't "RACISM" the ONLY thing that matters?<br /><br />Forget unemployment, social degeneration, economic woes, the failure of public education, institutionalized ignorance, an illegitimacy rate of over SEVENTY PERCENT in the Negro Community, and more than FIFTY pERCENT overall. Forget the threat of Islamism. Forget Israel. Forget North Korea. Forget widespread corruption and misappropriation of funds in government.<br /><br />FORGET <i>EVERYTHING</i> --- <b>E-X-C-E-P-T</b> ---<br /><br /><b>RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!<br />RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!<br />RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!<br />RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!<br />RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!<br />RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!<br />RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!<br />RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!<br />RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!<br />RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!<br />RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!<br />RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!</b><br /><br />It's ALL that matters.FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-61679506394786071362013-04-10T12:01:00.605-04:002013-04-10T12:01:00.605-04:00Coming soon to a campus near you. ;)<a href="http://youtu.be/5qRJIBtbc2c" rel="nofollow">Coming soon</a> to a campus near you. ;)Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-85480905975877229852013-04-10T11:58:50.698-04:002013-04-10T11:58:50.698-04:00Personally, tar and feathers work best for me. ;)...Personally, tar and feathers work best for me. ;)Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-73635741822764015202013-04-10T11:56:52.597-04:002013-04-10T11:56:52.597-04:00...or in the case of a mere Administrator... Guilt......or in the case of a mere Administrator... Guilt.<br /><br />ie - Derrick Bell, Elizabeth Warren and/or <a href="http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2006/02/summ-f24.html" rel="nofollow">Lawrence Summers</a>.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-10808881990400789322013-04-10T11:52:38.605-04:002013-04-10T11:52:38.605-04:00"Personal" authority, in a University &q..."Personal" authority, in a University "professor" IS likely also "public" authority, depending up[on the "prestige" conferred upon the specific university.<br /><br />Credit by association.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-72357605043868668062013-04-10T11:36:15.761-04:002013-04-10T11:36:15.761-04:00Where individual experts start to enjoy too much t...Where individual experts start to enjoy too much the trappings of personal authority, peer review is an often effective counter-measure. Do you have any other measures in mind? How do they compare?jezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14865247084509280406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-64670034895357726312013-04-10T10:44:30.437-04:002013-04-10T10:44:30.437-04:00For "who" is the source of "authori...For "who" is the source of "authority" in a democracy? The sovereign "people"? Or the "experts" in the universities who offer solutions to all of our many ever more intricately complicated "problems"?<br /><br />For "lies" may start simply. But to live, they must constantly "evolve".Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-65715739868822874132013-04-10T09:38:06.606-04:002013-04-10T09:38:06.606-04:00...just ask "Prometheus" and his brother......just ask "<a href="http://edweb.sdsu.edu/people/bdodge/scaffold/gg/creationMan.html" rel="nofollow">Prometheus</a>" and his brother.<br /><br />In a Democracy, the <a href="http://unconsciouskoine.tumblr.com/post/4927575516/lacans-critique-of-the-university-discourse" rel="nofollow">University Discourse</a> represents the "Master's" forethought.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-40113962229526218572013-04-10T09:33:30.553-04:002013-04-10T09:33:30.553-04:00The airhead eggheads in their ivory towers have no...<i>The airhead eggheads in their ivory towers have no cognizance of Reality at all. They seem to think Reality is like modeling clay -- i.e. it can be fashioned into any shape THEY think it OUGHT to take. </i><br /><br />lol! If you only knew...<br /><br />In a democracy, it IS modelling clay.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-14716109248054071952013-04-10T06:48:03.329-04:002013-04-10T06:48:03.329-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-41734986125204580572013-04-09T20:03:18.641-04:002013-04-09T20:03:18.641-04:00Do you think Rembrandt was a racist? That painting...Do you think Rembrandt was a racist? That painting looks really nasty to me. It's an honest portrait of the way unblended Africans really looked before the slave masters started the miscegenation thing. <br /><br />Dick WildeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-57822976413153459852013-04-09T16:52:20.284-04:002013-04-09T16:52:20.284-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-42146005838742408532013-04-09T14:45:37.552-04:002013-04-09T14:45:37.552-04:00"The standing qualifications to be President ..."The standing qualifications to be President of the United States are set out in the <br />Constitution, at Article II, Section 1, clause 5, and state three specific requirements: one <br />must be at least 35 years old, a resident “within the United States” for 14 years, and a <br />“natural born Citizen.” The constitutional provision states as follows: <br />No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the <br />Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any <br />Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, <br />and been Fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. <br />Questions from time-to-time have arisen concerning whether one who is a U.S. citizen “at birth” <br />because of the operation of federal law, is also a “natural born” citizen for purposes of the <br />presidential eligibility clause. Such questions often concern persons born abroad to parents who <br />are U.S. citizens, or persons born abroad when only one parent is a U.S. citizen who had resided <br />in the United States.1<br /> Although such individuals born abroad may clearly be U.S. citizens “at <br />birth” by statute, would such persons also be “natural born Citizens,” or is eligibility to the <br />Presidency limited only to “native born” citizens?2<br /> Additionally, questions have been recently <br />raised by some as to whether one born “in” the United States of one or more alien parents, and <br />who is thus clearly a U.S. citizen “at birth” by the Fourteenth Amendment, as well as by federal <br />law and common law, was intended to be considered a “natural born” citizen for purposes of the <br />presidential eligibility clause. <br />The Constitution does not define the term “natural born Citizen,” nor are the notes from the <br />debates at the Constitutional Convention of 1787 instructive as to any specific collective intent of <br />the framers concerning the meaning of the term. Furthermore, the Supreme Court has never <br />needed to address this particular issue within the specific context of a challenge to the eligibility <br />of a candidate under Article II, Section 1, clause 5, the only place in the entire Constitution that <br />the phrase appears, although federal courts have discussed the concept extensively with respect to <br />other issues of citizenship. Consequently, although there are numerous Supreme Court cases, as <br />well as other federal and state case law, discussing the phrase and its meaning from which <br />conclusions may be drawn, there has still been certain speculation on the scope of the language..."<br /><br />http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf<br /><br />My understanding of this is that the issue of "natural born" citizen is far from settled and it's absolutely not defined as anyone being born on American soil. An American citizen can be defined as anyone born on American soil, but in respect to becoming President the clear requirements are being "Natural born" ... i.e. simply being the child of two American parents.Waylonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08533895509055020394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-77215850341806206232013-04-09T14:42:52.839-04:002013-04-09T14:42:52.839-04:00Thank you for quoting the law, Ms Shaw. I should h...Thank you for quoting the law, Ms Shaw. I should have thanked you for that earlier.<br /><br />This leapt out at me:<br /><br /><i></i><br /><br />That little phrase "though not all" seems beyond the pale and totally out of whack to me.<br /><br />If absolute FOREIGNERS getting pregnant during a casual weekend fling can whelp on OUR soil and have the infant AUTOMATICALLY declared a US Citizen, it is totally OUTRAGEOUS even to THINK that a baby born to two AMERICAN parents on far flung FOREIGN soil during a safari or archeological expedition would not automatically be an AMERICAN citizen like his or her parents.<br /><br /><b>The LAW is a' ASS.</b><br />FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-64396088805063392502013-04-09T14:13:04.198-04:002013-04-09T14:13:04.198-04:00Thersites, Franklin's wry observations make go...Thersites, Franklin's wry observations make good reading -- very interesting that he realized his own insularity and had discerned that ALL human tribes are virtual prisoners of their native mores and cultural norms.<br /><br />That is why this stupid thing we insist on calling "racism" is as natural and as normal as eating sleeping and breathing. It's BUILT IN to us.<br /><br />This is why most people "hate" and "fear" Negroes, Jews and homosexuals. They are manifestly DIFFERENT. They LOOK different, act different, and THINK differently from the rank and file. That automatically makes them objects of suspicion and resentment.<br /><br />This may be regrettable, but it is what it is, and if it's going to change, it will have to be through a long grinding down process of societal EVOLUTION. It will NEVER be accomplished by fiat or government edict. NEVER!<br /><br />I've spent a fair amount of time "underground," so believe me I know what I'm talking about. The airhead eggheads in their ivory towers have no cognizance of Reality at all. They seem to think Reality is like modeling clay -- i.e. it can be fashioned into any shape THEY think it OUGHT to take. <br /><br />Now naive!FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-36188159327327583332013-04-09T14:12:53.453-04:002013-04-09T14:12:53.453-04:00I'm not sure what "freeing the slaves&quo...I'm not sure what "freeing the slaves" has to do with the definition of "natural born citizen", being a prerequisite for becoming President. Tell me.<br /><br />Even if that assertion were true, why would there be so much time and effort spent to remove the original definition of a "natural born" citizen being a basic requirement to become President. <br /><br />What is evident is that there is a supreme effort being made from a politically driven agenda to redefine the original requirement, and I wouldn't rely on Wikipedia for this particular argument, just because an issue this important politically would have plenty of hired hands watching and editing this to support their point. Waylonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08533895509055020394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-38023283303711544492013-04-09T13:57:50.592-04:002013-04-09T13:57:50.592-04:00Waylon, I hate to be the one to tell you, but Shaw...Waylon, I hate to be the one to tell you, but Shaw is perfectly correct in the matter of natural born citizenship.<br /><br />We have the 14th Amendment, which was designed to grant automatic citizenship to freed slaves after the Civil War, to thank for that.<br /><br />I think it's illogical and counter-intuitive, myself, but a child conceived during a one night stand between an Australian Aborigine male on a "student" visa and a silvery blonde Danish girl out for a good time while touring the good ol' USA would, indeed, be eligible to run for the presidency as long as the Danish girl brought that baby into the world on AMERICAN soil.<br /><br />As far as I'm concerned that's just NUTS, but it IS the law.FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-1547750355314355862013-04-09T13:44:27.865-04:002013-04-09T13:44:27.865-04:00Ms Shaw, methinks thou puttest too much stock in w...Ms Shaw, methinks thou puttest too much stock in what-passes-for "education." Having earned a degree - or even two or three degrees -- is no guarantee of brilliance, high achievement, good character or even basic decency. <br /><br />I have three college degrees, myself. So what?<br /><br />Whatever the sire of our president acquired in the way of learning and civilized behavior was, apparently, given to him by his contact with Anglican Christians and a prominent university in a then-still predominantly White Anglo-Saxon Protestant country. <br /><br />By all accounts he was a horribly selfish irresponsible, hedonistic, shamelessly exploitative man of low moral character -- a non-parent to his children -- a non-husband to the lunatic communist bitch who deliberately got herself pregnant by him -- on the advice of her <i>father</i> -- precisely <i>because</i> he was NOT WHITE. Her father had told her never to sleep with WHITE MEN -- only BLACK or COLORED.<br /><br />Obviously she followed his advice. Her motives were <i>POLITICAL</i> not SENSUAL. There was no "love" in any of these carryings on. It was PURPOSEFUL.<br /><br />I do, indeed, loath and despise anyone who would allow herself or himself to be motivated in such a perverse fashion. <br /><br />Barack Obama's entire background is creepy and disgusting. It's a wonder he has turned out as presentable as he as, but I am morally certain that that TOO has been part of the long range plan.<br /><br />If the affair had been a genuine love match that arose spontaneously between two people who just happened to "click," I'd no problem with it. I can understand that very well.<br /><br />It's the cold-hearted, agenda-driven CALCULATION I so strenuously object to.<br /><br />And I don't care what ANYONE says sub-Saharan African Negroes were, indeed, savages before contact with Europeans was established, and many of them still are to this very day. They don't call Africa "The Dark Continent" for no good reason.FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.com