tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post4162380749973167157..comments2023-10-17T08:19:58.196-04:00Comments on FreeThinke: FreeThinkehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-28773471669236217752013-04-12T14:37:05.230-04:002013-04-12T14:37:05.230-04:00Mary,
Glad you stopped by! You've articulated...Mary,<br /><br />Glad you stopped by! You've articulated my own feelings very well, indeed.<br /><br />As you may or may not have noticed, I love our English language, have made a lifelong study of it, and still strive to increase my vocabulary in an age where "dumbed down" versions of phraseology are the order of the day. This seems to annoy many "modernists," which only makes me more determined than ever to uphold and expand the standards to which I was raised -- admittedly ages ago.<br /><br />One of the tragi-comic casualties of the left's all-too successful effort to bowdlerize and sanitize the language is the word NIGGARDLY -- a wonderfully colorful synonym for STINGY or PENURIOUS.<br /><br />Serious efforts have been made to retire the words NIGGARD and NIGGARDLY from the language, because -- Oh! Heaven forefend! -- some ignoramus might not know the meaning, and mistakenly ASSUME it to be a "slur" directed at Negroes.<br /><br />God in Heaven! To this we've come, and I say PHOOEY!<br /><br />I wish Z -- dear friend of longstanding with a very good heart -- hadn't felt I was "chiding" her when I said those who supported EzzZee must have failed to read EVERYTHING he set down. <i>[I actually had other posters in mind when I levied that criticism.]</i> <br /><br />The idea behind my observation was that so often we don't read ALL of someone's remarks, but simply allow ourselves to react to the first sentence that strikes us as either praiseworthy or objectionable -- or to pick-a-back someone ELSE'S response and go with that instead of taking a careful look for ourselves.<br /><br />EzzZee may have <i>started off</i> sounding perfectly reasonable, but the main thrust of his lengthy remarks, when taken altogether, was to direct hatred and bitter resentment at ME for daring to address an issue that HE doesn't want ANYONE -- particularly any WHITE person -- to discuss.<br /><br />It reminds me of so many Jewish people who bristle with indignation if a non-Jewish person even so much as ACKNOWLEDGES the Jewish identity of a public figure under discussion. And yet, Jewish people, themselves, are usually very quick to give public credit to any person of notable accomplishment who happens to be Jewish, and they rarely-if-ever fail to <i>mention</i> that he or she is a fellow Jew.<br /><br />Double standards are demanded everywhere in this PC hell we've made for ourselves out of twisted, utterly mistaken notions of the nature of compassion.<br /><br /><b>Too many conservative-libertarians have let themselves be COWED -- browbeaten -- chastised -- castigated -- counseled -- condemned -- excoriated -- SHAMED into compliance with leftist initiatives, simply because they do not want the left to be able to say with any degree of credibility at all that they are racists, bigots, sexists, homophobes or misogynists, etc.</b><br /><br />Well, I'm here to tell you that THAT is BULLSHIT. Words are just sounds. They have no meaning except that which we GIVE them.<br /><br />A short for instance, and then I'm outta here:<br /><br />In German the word HELL means BRIGHT, SHINING, BEAMING, etc.<br /><br />In English the word HELL for many many years was regarded as TABOO -- something no decent person would say aloud in polite society.<br /><br /><b>Sorry, but I REFUSE to ACCEPT the meanings LEFTISTS have deliberately chosen to IMPUTE to an ever-expanding list of words they are turning into NEW TABOOS.</b><br /><br />If Negroes call each other "nigger" all the time -- and they do -- I've heard it -- I don't see any reason why others can't do so either, if they choose.<br /><br />I never use the word, myself, out of the context of discussions such as this, because I think it's VULGAR, and I've made something of a life's work out of rising above vulgarity as much as I possibly can.FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-10932786472280209342013-04-12T13:42:12.746-04:002013-04-12T13:42:12.746-04:00I do. All the time.I do. All the time.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-28379849784694446542013-04-12T12:24:20.159-04:002013-04-12T12:24:20.159-04:00Go talk to a friend.Go talk to a friend.jezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14865247084509280406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-26641891667088960002013-04-12T09:06:12.966-04:002013-04-12T09:06:12.966-04:00No patronizing "pretense" of "admir...No patronizing "pretense" of "admiration" of black culture, just "jealousy" of their naturally endowed f*cking ability. ;)Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-90023110586175726062013-04-12T09:03:37.771-04:002013-04-12T09:03:37.771-04:00...in that way, it becomes a "shared obscenit......in that way, it becomes a "shared obscenity", and as such, a "bond" of friendship.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-58819348493291029962013-04-12T09:00:40.983-04:002013-04-12T09:00:40.983-04:00I agree, obscene jokes in the back rooms of men...I agree, obscene jokes in the back rooms of men's clubs ARE unhelpful.<br /><br />I advocate telling them FACE to FACE, not behind anyone's back.<br /><br />And therein lies ALL the difference.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-65126790873662826082013-04-12T08:03:09.835-04:002013-04-12T08:03:09.835-04:00The problem with racism is the same as the problem...The problem with racism is the same as the problem with sectarianism, class etc. It's all to do with entrenched disadvantage, handed on from generation to generation -- in short, what happens when the melting pot fails to achieve FT's PRESTO CHANGE-O that I agree would be ideal.<br /><br />I take it we agree that social mobility is desirable. Let he who is able and willing succeed, regardless of his background. That's really all this whole thing is about. That's why it is appropriate that our response to racism targeted at different groups be asymmetrical. The group which already has the best social mobility has the least reasonable cause for grievance.<br /><br />Inasmuch as it lacks bearing on one's ability and character, race should not hamper an individual's social mobility. Inasmuch as they contribute to the constraint of certain social groups' mobility, 1970s smoke-filled working-men's club style jokes are considered unhelpful. For quite separate reasons, they are mostly considered poor jokes -- I'm reminded of Seinfeld: "It doesn't offend me as a Jew, it offends me as a comedian!"jezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14865247084509280406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-76841103545523931992013-04-12T07:15:52.784-04:002013-04-12T07:15:52.784-04:00Just because some people don't "understan...Just because some people don't "understand" the meaning of calling a spade a spade and think it "might" be racist is no reason for people to stop using the phrase. Why should their lack of education or ignorance cause us to reduce or restrict our vocabulary?<br />Because some people cannot understand the meaning of the idiom "to call a spade a spade" and therefore think it racist is no reason for me to stop using it!<br />No one has the right to determine the sensitivity of another.<br /><br />It’s simply absurd to stop using a phrase because someone MAY misinterpret your meaning.<br />We have become much to sensitive when we try to appease the Blacks. They don't seem to worry to much about the words they chose to use... do they! A Blog dedicated to the idea that people should be permitted to run their own lives as they wish. https://www.blogger.com/profile/00276583410646456747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-2427626673190921102013-04-11T19:36:27.361-04:002013-04-11T19:36:27.361-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Divine Theatrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02553420826262806110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-87668422366990844562013-04-11T18:58:58.003-04:002013-04-11T18:58:58.003-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-64736556373374444102013-04-11T18:46:24.611-04:002013-04-11T18:46:24.611-04:00I've wanted to say "call a spade a spade&...I've wanted to say "call a spade a spade" on Obama posts and I have to admit I've thought "Better not do THAT". I believe I've even mentioned ON the post that it came to mind and I changed it. Stupid on my part, I know.<br /><br />FT, I have to say that nigger has no place in any conversation.. I don't care HOW little you think the word's offensive. A WORD doesn't hurt us, but when a word's carried that much ugly stima with it, it's time to stop using it. Black America uses it, which I think is revolting, but that's their problem.<br /><br />As for EZ...he's not paying attention. Your whole POINT was race, you don't blog on race all the time, but this time, you felt you wanted to explore it. See, a leftwinger black man can't even bear to see it discussed without freaking out and name calling. Astonishing, isn't it?<br /><br />Most of that part of his post was so untrue and silly it wasn't worth commenting to. I stand by my feelings about the one i did comment on. I don't want to be chided for what you feel isn't a proper response to a commenter, FT. !!<br /><br />Happy Birthday...I hope you're having a wonderful evening.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-18390044629584986532013-04-11T18:38:24.310-04:002013-04-11T18:38:24.310-04:00To those who wanted to give EzzZee credit for aimi...To those who wanted to give EzzZee credit for aiming good points, etc. I strongly suspect most of you didn't read his SECOND post. Here's a healthy excerpt from that screed:<br /><br /><i><b>" Many slaves such as Nate [sic - It's NAT] Tuner led many slaves to revolt against their masters for freedom. These revolts occurred for years and many white Americans were fearful. It wasn't until blacks began cutting the heads off of whites that Lincoln felt the greatest pressure to free them. (Not surprising to me why so many Americans are so affected by the beheadings going on in the invasion of Iraq) In addition, he gave an ultimatum to the southern states stating that if they did not stop the war, they will lose their slaves. All of these events led to our freedom in the 13th amendment in 1863. While I do not disagree that many whites helped blacks, BUT many whites didn't!!<br /><br />PSI I don't want your dirty handouts. People are people.. all of us, and i mean every single one of us makes mistakes. Nobody is perfect. So for all you that think it's so important to degrade people of a different skin color, you can go straight to hell. And may I ask you Mr. Obnoxious Free Thinker, why do YOU feel that you must continue to blog about RACE all week, or all month? Are you guilty about something? Or do you have a closet full of racism. I mean come on, it's not rocket science to know that you have some reason behind this. No one owes anyone anything. Its over. Why do you want to blog about race every day? How about STOPPING MAKING RACE AN ISSUE.</b></i><br /><br />We learn so much more about Peter from what he says about Paul than we learn about Paul, don't we?<br /><br />'Nuff said.<br /><br />FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-37154845202883727942013-04-11T16:47:55.402-04:002013-04-11T16:47:55.402-04:00In regard to Jay-Z's and Beyoncé´s recent trip...<br />In regard to Jay-Z's and Beyoncé´s recent trip to Cuba. Jay-z says Obama gave him permission. Is he lying?<br /><br />Carney said " The President did not communicate with Jay Z over this trip " . So it does suggest some form of communication, or is someone LYING? . <br />It must be nice to have the President of the United States of America in your back pocket.<br />I have only one question and I address it to the U.S . What the hell happened to our country ? Lady Gunslingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15301996917783144243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-82324635046975682852013-04-11T16:39:51.200-04:002013-04-11T16:39:51.200-04:00Partly off topic, but along the same line.
By the ...Partly off topic, but along the same line.<br />By the way, Jay-Z and wife Beyonce have came under fire because of their trip to Cuba, when American’s are not allowed to travel there. But however, they were allowed to visit the communist country.<br />When Obama’s Press Secretary Jay Carney responded to a question about it, he replied... "The Boy from the hood but got White House clearance"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-13209591777844801942013-04-11T16:33:06.066-04:002013-04-11T16:33:06.066-04:00You make some great points most of them I fully ag...You make some great points most of them I fully agree with.<br /><br />It's as plain as the nose on your face that Democrats have done absolutely nothing to advance Blacks in this country.. And yet the Blacks seem to vote for these losers about 80 percent of the time, The Democrats are responsible for just about all the bad this country has suffered in the last couple of decades including keeping the Black people down. I see Liberals as the ULTIMATE HYPOCRITES..Liberals try to show their concern for the Blacks by their rhetoric, just ask them what they have ever done for the Blacks to deserve their vote and you’ll see a black look on their faces. , Obama, Rev.Jackson, Al Sharpton, L. Farakhan , have become very wealthy and politically powerful by their BSing the Black community. Liberals keep power through an entitlement mentality. Statistics show that 90% of black children will receive food stamps at some point in their lives which is completely supported by liberals. Liberals are disgusting and they have overrun the Democratic party. So the only thing left top do to be safe from liberalism is vote any politician with a “D’ next to their name OUT OF OFFICE. Democrats were the proponents of slavery, segregation, abortion and affirmative action. Which group does all of these institutions affect the most? You guessed it, Blacks. The best way to control a group is too keep it poor and uneducated.<br />Liberals are dirty, they lie and cheat to keep power. Liberals are out to destroy America in order to push their destructive agenda !!.The SoapBox Kidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-28935668173280524692013-04-11T16:19:26.197-04:002013-04-11T16:19:26.197-04:00LOL, I was only pulling your leg, I use that exp...LOL, I was only pulling your leg, I use that expression ALL the time.Mindy B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-90203086591605645052013-04-11T16:10:20.476-04:002013-04-11T16:10:20.476-04:00Oh, Mindy, I'd call a spade a nigger, and a to...Oh, Mindy, I'd call a spade a nigger, and a toilet a pisspot, if I felt like it.<br /><br />We've GOT to get <i>OVER</i> this HORSE SHIT.<br /><br />"Sticks and stone may break our bones but NAMES will ever harm us."<br /><br />Remember that?FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-46529462845039159502013-04-11T16:07:39.361-04:002013-04-11T16:07:39.361-04:00I often mention my immigrant grandparents. They ha...I often mention my immigrant grandparents. They had it rough when they first arrived and went through Ellis island, but they never complained, and they received any help from ANYONE. All they ever said was how good it was to be here in America.<br /><br />We've making such a stinking fuss today -- thanks to the machinations of liberals -- about things my grandparents -- and my uncles and aunts would have taken in stride and brushed out of their consciousness like so much lint.<br /><br />Back in the 1880's, 90's and early 1900's the various immigrant groups who came here disliked and distrusted each other. It was very common to hear members of one particular ethnic group shout epithets in the street such as "Get out of here, ya dirty Irish Mick!" "Drop dead, ya lousy stinkin' Polack." "Fuck you, you greasy WOP, ya stink of garlic." "You dumb Swede." "You dirty kike." "Those goddam NIggers stink to high heaven." "Ya can't trust them Spics," "Let's go down to the Chinks and get some chow mein." and on and on. <br /><br />There were fist fights. There were street brawls, There were tears from little Italian girls who were called hideous names on their way to Sunday School by "Irish girls with green teeth," and all the rest of it. But, YOU KNOW WHAT?<br /><br />Nobody DIED, nobody SUED, no LEGISLATION was passed, and within one generation Italian boys were dating Irish girls, Jewish kids gained a measure of acceptance. "Intermarriage" became increasingly common, and PRESTO CHANGE-O! A new American Identity was born.<br /><br />What we stupidly want to call "Hate Crimes" today were merely a Rite of Passage little more than a century ago. And THOSE people, -- my grandparent and parents and their peers -- made what was to become The Greatest Generation.<br /><br /><b>We've rotted ourselves out trying to take all the risks and all the challenges out of life.</b>FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-13433244395260881532013-04-11T16:00:51.264-04:002013-04-11T16:00:51.264-04:00Free Thinke said
He calls a spade a spade "
...Free Thinke said<br /><i>He calls a spade a spade "</i><br /><br />Better NOT let the Lefties hear you say that..Mindy B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-79753217463678355902013-04-11T15:45:53.650-04:002013-04-11T15:45:53.650-04:00Thersites, I just LOVE Zizek. He calls a spade a s...Thersites, I just LOVE Zizek. He calls a spade a spade without apology and with puckish good humor.<br /><br /><i>"The ______ masturbates by digging a hole in the ground, inserting his penis and waiting for an earthquake to come along."</i><br /><br />I'm still laughing at that. It's hysterical.<br /><br />Yes. Such earthy frankness is EXACTLY what we need.<br /><br />What a charming, lovable old bear!<br /><br />Reminds me of a very old joke about the once infamous Fire Island.<br /><br /><b>QUESTION: How do they separate the en from the boys on Fire Island?<br /><br />ANSWER: WIth a crowbar! };-)></b><br /><br />Ta tala BOOM!FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-77987168489603636432013-04-11T15:37:25.830-04:002013-04-11T15:37:25.830-04:00The Political Chic said, " ... The Left have ...The Political Chic said, <i>" ... The Left have gotten worse with their personal attacks and criticisms against those with whom they disagree ..."</i><br /><br />Lady Gunslinger said something similar. Such complaints have become standard talking points on the right.<br /><br />Most of what the two of you said is true enough, BUT when we inveigh against the left like this we fail to recognize that more and more "we" are doing the same sort of thing, ourselves. Do two wrongs even make a right? It may sound corny, but it's a question well worth answering. <br /><br />I have long observed that the hatred and stupidity from both extremes are in effect a Rorschach pattern -- a mirror image -- two sides of the same counterfeit coin. Perhaps this has come about from an attempt to "fight fire with fire?" I'm not sure. <br /><br />Now Andie's very personal story is a different matter. It's filled with specifics -- not generalizations. I think she's right in saying that conservatives rarely go that far with outrageous attacks on leftists as the gruesome incidents that were perpetrated on Andie and her family. described.<br /><br />The left, of course, wants to equate the very EXISTENCE of white middle-class prosperity with lynchings, cross burnings, kangaroo courts, and the denial of education and the right to vote once suffered by Negroes -- particularly in the South. But those days are long GONE, and the attempt to continue USING those old, old, OLD injustices as a JUSTIFICATION for the loutish, arrogant, anti-social, counter-productive phenomena of Drug Abuse, Soaring Illegitimacy, Gangstah Rap, the Hip Hop Culture and the glorification of crime, welfare dependency and snotty, belligerent HATEFUL attitudes is beyond ABOMINABLE. It's CONTEMPTIBLE.<br /><br />So, once again I want to say that all this mud slinging and ugly display of temper is perfectly USELESS. It degrades and perverts EVERYONE -- black or white -- who indulges in it.FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-33013926942078106292013-04-11T15:30:10.175-04:002013-04-11T15:30:10.175-04:00I agree with much of EZ's comments...but I hav...I agree with much of EZ's comments...but I have to add that I believe Obama has created a much bigger race issue again. Starting with the Harvard prof burglary and how he jumped to conclusions before he knew the facts...<br /><br />And I believe what's perpetuated RACISM claims and mischaracterizations is when the left automatically calls whites racist if they dare criticize Obama; which happens all the time.<br />First, it's a little stupid because there are many black conservatives white conservatives would vote for in a heart beat, second, there are very few white racists left..fringe types, I suppose and, trust me, how could they all be Conservatives!? :-)<br />Who got the Civil Rights Act passed? (Hint: Not Dems)<br /><br />I have a new family addition in a black football graduate from U of Kentucky and I couldn't be happier with him or his marvelous, loving family. I feel blessed.<br />I believe mixed marriages might be the only thing which finally puts racism TO BED forever.<br />I hope so.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-53530106340646727482013-04-11T15:10:56.040-04:002013-04-11T15:10:56.040-04:00Yes, the left were so quick to blame the Gabby Gi...<br />Yes, the left were so quick to blame the Gabby Giffords shooting as well as every other story of violence immediately on the right and the Tea Party or on what Sarah Palin “MAY” have said without waiting for the evidence to be released. They are always right there with their rush to judgment. One only has to check-out the Progressives blogs to document their hate<br />Deceivers, hypocrites, communists, liars, all of them. And please don’t let them call themselves “Tolerant” One only has to read the Progressive’s boards to know that they are all of the above.<br />These liberal-progressive commenters, including those here, are delusional, deranged and in denial. It's pretty sad actually that they don't even realize how wrong they are.<br />These people are hate filled lying, hypocritical, scum.<br />Thanks Free Thinke for this. We on the right know there is hate on both sides but the left's hate is 100 times nastier, 100 times more prevalent, and 100 times more vicious. .<br />Thanks for documenting this! I don't see how any thinking person can ever equate the right and left as if they were the same in this...oh, right - I said THINKING person...Lady Gunslingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15301996917783144243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-87298874754947228502013-04-11T15:06:41.953-04:002013-04-11T15:06:41.953-04:00The futility of allowing oneself to be consumed wi...The futility of allowing oneself to be consumed with bitterness, wrath, anxiety, depression and a perpetually accusatory demanding attitude should be self-evident. <br /><br />The Progressives, however, have structured things in such a way that Envy and Self-Pity are portrayed as positive virtues. The Progressives -- and certain quasi-socialistic elements within the Roman Catholic Church also -- have done everything possible to promote [illegitimate] feelings of GUILT in those who've done well in life. This deliberate factionalizing has made us a SICK polarized society teetering on the brink of dysfunction.<br /><br />What it all boils down to is this: <br /><br /><b>NO ONE CAN EAT YOUR DINNER FOR YOU</b>. Either you ingest what's put in front of you -- like it or not --, or you get sick and die.<br /><br />The Welfare State mentality has sapped the vitality -- the willingness to experiment -- any sense of ambition or pride in personal achievement out of a huge segment of society. In a very real sense Liberalism, Progressivism, Statism, Socialism -- whatever you what to all it -- has in its way turned out to be as great a Crime Against Humanity as The Third Reich -- ANOTHER failed attempt to establish Heaven on earth through totalitarianism.<br /><br />Those consumed with hatred and resentment may in fact be JUSTIFIED. But <i>that makes no difference</i>, because sooner or later EVERYONE has to learn: <b>"IF IT IS TO BE, IT'S UP TO ME."</b><br /><br /> It really is as simple -- and as stark -- as that.<br /><br />FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-15551195783911573232013-04-11T15:01:42.696-04:002013-04-11T15:01:42.696-04:00:P<a href="http://youtu.be/3vjqPEkMJUo" rel="nofollow">:P</a>Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.com