tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post3456678536763920034..comments2023-10-17T08:19:58.196-04:00Comments on FreeThinke: FreeThinkehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-14135093339799832332015-09-22T15:02:36.687-04:002015-09-22T15:02:36.687-04:00Every swordsman a blacksmith, every rifleman a gun...Every swordsman a blacksmith, every rifleman a gunsmith, and every General a Quartermaster, eh Anon?Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-55479559204723730942015-09-22T13:01:13.729-04:002015-09-22T13:01:13.729-04:00Mordecai Rappahannock Terwilliger said
Very funny...<b>Mordecai Rappahannock Terwilliger said</b><br /><br />Very funny, FT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-54530571226026270192015-09-22T12:56:04.899-04:002015-09-22T12:56:04.899-04:00I think it may be an extreme over-reactiin to assu...I think it may be an extreme over-reactiin to assume that just because the door has finally been opened to give decent, presentable, qualified gay people a chance that necessarily means discrimanation is bound to occur against heterosexuals.<br /><br />I'll repeat what I said earlier, because, as a clearcut definition of an Ideal Objective for a truly decent society I think it deserves every possible emphasis:<br /><br /><b>The day when one's Gayness, Jewishness, Whiteness, Blackness, Brownness, Yellowness, Redness or Religious Affiliation is NOT taken into consideration at ALL when selecting candidates for employment may well be the day that brings in the Millennium.<br /><br />Whatever Obama's MOTIVES may be for making a determined point of this sort of thing, –– and I am highly suspicious and generally resentful of everything he does, as you well know ––, the RESULT is apt to be laudable, especially in this case.<br /><br />What rabid reactionaries, and militant "traditionalists" fail to acknowledge is that ALL minorities would STILL be despised, rejected, defamed, reviled, denied employment, denied access to good quality housing, and denied the opportunity to gain upward mobility were it not for political activism.<br /><br />THAT is the OTHER side of the coin. The side we'd prefer not to notice, but MUST examine and take into consideration if things are ever to be made right.<br /><br />On wonders how many homosexual men and women in the past have done commendable work commanding armies, holding high office,–– how many have done well in leadership positions in business, and done fine work as scientists, doctors, attorneys, accountants, pharmacists, teachers and college professors while no one ever knew they were in fact gay? <br /><br />Many entered into loveless marriages de convenance in order to throw the vicious bloodhounds off the scent and give themselves "cover." <br /><br />How fair was that to either of the spouses involved? <br /><br />Could it possibly be GOOD to expect someone to play the hypocrite to THAT high a degree for the sole purpose of surviving in his field of endeavor?<br /><br />I'm sorry to have to say it, but I get the distinct feeling that if it were up to you, my dear friend, Mr. Fanning would NEVER have even been CONSIDERED for ANY position at ALL. I see that as an implicit desire to punish him for his rare degree of honesty.<br /><br />Sorry, but I could never go along with that brand of thinking.</b>FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-19724688260974143862015-09-22T12:49:24.444-04:002015-09-22T12:49:24.444-04:00That in itself is newsworthy, AOW.
Either it sho...That in itself is newsworthy, AOW. <br /><br />Either it show society has progressed to the point where it really does tolerate a phenomenon regarded as unthinkable - OR - it shows the high degree of apathy, insouciance, and blissful unawareness into which the public has fallen.<br /><br />If the latter, it is most regrettable. If the former, it may be a healthy sign.FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-62647910780697642192015-09-22T12:41:07.489-04:002015-09-22T12:41:07.489-04:00Your remarks said nothing of what the Pope thinks ...Your remarks said nothing of what the Pope thinks of the appointment of Eric Fanning by Obama to a top spot in civilian army leadership. That is why your post has been deleted.<br /><br />Apparently, you like so many others who attempt to post irrelevant remarks here, are either incredibly rude, incredibly stupid or completely illiterate.FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-73600328928300924582015-09-22T12:13:05.946-04:002015-09-22T12:13:05.946-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-42547274302718856742015-09-22T10:45:32.529-04:002015-09-22T10:45:32.529-04:00Yes. The world would be so much better if the US ...Yes. The world would be so much better if the US disarmed!<br /><br />Iranian Mullahsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-54704553249774428052015-09-22T10:28:39.317-04:002015-09-22T10:28:39.317-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-1448979149451720742015-09-22T08:58:25.842-04:002015-09-22T08:58:25.842-04:00Then you want them to fight with bare hands?
Virg...Then you want them to fight with bare hands?<br /><br />Virginia HerndonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-3561731622239986072015-09-21T19:27:24.074-04:002015-09-21T19:27:24.074-04:00Here's what I find interesting....
Other than...Here's what I find interesting....<br /><br />Other than congratulatory information about Fanning -- first openly gay Army Secretary, and all that -- I have seen nothing about this matter. I subscribe to all sorts of newsletters, some of them Christian fundamentalist in orientation, and haven't seen <b>anything</b> about the fact that Fanning is openly gay.<br /><br />So, methinks that this matter hasn't caused much of a stir.<br /><br />Did I miss something condemning the choice of Fanning for this position?Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-57497115958693245912015-09-21T19:19:11.507-04:002015-09-21T19:19:11.507-04:00FT,
I have similar family tales. They have little...FT,<br />I have similar family tales. They have little to do with ethnicity, but rather with biases toward particular regions (Appalachia) and professions (auto mechanics -- aka grease monkeys). <br /><br />I was regularly ridiculed because my mother came from Appalachia and my father was a grease monkey. But no activist groups to join for those.<br /><br />Look. I really don't care about the Fanning story one way or the other. But I do care that the time has arrived when being heterosexual will result in job discrimination. Certainly that development is not the moral high ground.<br /><br />I've always said that whoever is most qualified should be considered for the job -- within the employer's parameters, of course. <br /><br />For example, at the Christian school where I worked from 1978-1996, all applicants had to write out and sign their professions of faith. Those doing the hiring did not delve into anything else. Period. I suppose that the school would not have hired someone who was openly gay. The owners' prerogative, IMO. The matter never arose.<br /><br />I do know for a fact that I never saw any discrimination based on sexual orientation in the public school system where I worked (1973-1978) or in the various D.C. choirs to which I belonged back in the 1960s. There were openly gay members of those choirs and orchestras. No big deal and no snickering, either.<br /><br />I've heard that many in the military were dead set against the nullification of don't ask, don't tell. Not being a member of the military, I can't speak to that particular issue and leave it to others with a military background to address the matter.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-71490058848279678422015-09-21T16:05:59.136-04:002015-09-21T16:05:59.136-04:00____________________ N-O-T-I-C-E _________________...<b>____________________ N-O-T-I-C-E ____________________<br /><br />COMMENTS <i>M-U-S-T</i> RELATE to the TOPIC of the POST.<br /><br />IRRELEVANT REMARKS <i>W-I-L-L</i> BE DELETED as a MATTER OF POLICY.</b>FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-35276355691987311752015-09-21T15:58:42.119-04:002015-09-21T15:58:42.119-04:00So what is your point, Ms. Quackenbush?
If you ho...So what is your point, Ms. Quackenbush?<br /><br /><b><i>If you hope to get a good job,<br />You need to dress like a slob.<br />Good clothes will cause tongues to wag,<br />And the boss suspect you're a fag.</i></b><br /><br />Is THAT the kind of thinking that motivated your remark, Ms. Quackenbush?FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-3104760340003485682015-09-21T15:50:19.759-04:002015-09-21T15:50:19.759-04:00Please read my last post above to AOW, General. I ...Please read my last post above to AOW, General. I believe it applies equally well to your assertions.FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-87952274278298814822015-09-21T15:49:05.158-04:002015-09-21T15:49:05.158-04:00Well, bully for Fanning! I have to admire people w...Well, bully for Fanning! I have to admire people who have the courage to stand up for themselves and their kind in a hostile environment, –– especially when they do it judiciously in an open, honest, respectable way.<br /><br />Once upon a time, and not so very long ago, landlords of better quality apartment houses steadfastly refused to rent to Italians and most other markedly "ethnic" types. When questioned they would say things like, <i>"The family you know whom we rejected is very nice, of course, and seems quite acceptable <b>on the surface,</b> but don't you realize that once we let even ONE of these people in, their friends and relatives are bound to follow. After that it will only be a matter of months before everyone would have to put up with the smell of cooking in the halls. <b>The whole building would stink of garlic</b>. And then they are so LOUD whenever they get together. I'm sorry but we just can't have that here."</i><br /><br />I come from an Italian family on my mother's side –– as primly moral, hard-working, highly intelligent, fiercely ambitious, upwardly mobile a group as you could ever hope to meet, and yet <b>this actually happened to one of my uncles who had risen through the ranks to become one of New York City's eminent physicians.</b> <br /><br />My own mother was called horrible names and attacked on the way to <i>Sunday School</i> by members of a rival ethnic group when she was just a little girl. It was Easter, and my grandmother had made her and my cousin Ruth, who was just mother's age, a new outfit for the occasion. The street bullies pulled the new coats off their backs and ripped them to shreds before mother's big brother Bill could come to the rescue.<br /><br /><b>All that ugliness simply because mother came from an ITALIAN family!</b> That incident occurred NINETY-FIVE YEARS AGO, but the memory still hurts –– and it didn't even happen directly to <i>me.</i> <br /><br />Anyway, that –– and a few other things i could tell you, but won't –– is why I am so acutely sensitive to the horror and injustice of stupid, blind prejudice. <br /><br />First and foremost people are INDIVIDUALS. If they are to be judged at all –– something the Bible warns against –– they should be judged by the way the BEHAVE not by what ethnic group they belong to or what country their parents came from.<br /><br />The same principle should apply to gay people. Why should a perfectly clean, decent, accomplished person like Eric Fanning be made to suffer for the boisterous, uncouth antics of a few highly vocal, low-class, screaming queens in sequined jockstraps? FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-89941644517356893702015-09-21T15:41:48.860-04:002015-09-21T15:41:48.860-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.It's Turds all the way Down!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-59438987189196991002015-09-21T14:13:20.507-04:002015-09-21T14:13:20.507-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Octopussynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-44726903520855747062015-09-21T14:09:06.877-04:002015-09-21T14:09:06.877-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.In My Namenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-58026381625961834932015-09-21T13:39:32.259-04:002015-09-21T13:39:32.259-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Right Wing Loon Alarm!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-5094651431058516352015-09-21T13:24:12.227-04:002015-09-21T13:24:12.227-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.In My Namenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-17815796252850536742015-09-21T13:22:03.270-04:002015-09-21T13:22:03.270-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Octopussynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-48450679968665590892015-09-21T13:11:31.653-04:002015-09-21T13:11:31.653-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.FYInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-54224931199117713542015-09-21T08:57:36.919-04:002015-09-21T08:57:36.919-04:00Conchita,
He's a snappy dresser!
Most people ...Conchita,<br /><i>He's a snappy dresser!</i><br /><br />Most people affiliated with the military (as well as people expert in the same fields as Fanning) are well groomed and good dressers. At least, that's been my experience here in the D.C. area, where we have hordes of such individuals.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-58645922282292653122015-09-21T08:27:15.853-04:002015-09-21T08:27:15.853-04:00He's a snappy dresser! Those gay men are so s...He's a snappy dresser! Those gay men are so stylish and well-groomed. What a wonderful representative of our US Army!Conchita Quackenbushnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-145653764764266444.post-67281158948452748152015-09-21T07:19:19.838-04:002015-09-21T07:19:19.838-04:00Aha! Gotta love Google search!
Fanning served on...<a href="http://www.towleroad.com/2015/02/eric-fanning/" rel="nofollow">Aha</a>! Gotta love Google search!<br /><br /><i>Fanning served on the board of the Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund from 2004 to 2007.<br /><br />The American Military Partner Association (AMPA), which advocates for LGBT military families, hailed the appointment. <br /><br />"We are thrilled to see Fanning's appointment because of his experience first and foremost," AMPA president Ashley Broadway-Mack said. "Knowing that he's an openly gay man in such an important role is a milestone and a sign of how far we've come, especially when only a few years ago LGB service members could not serve openly."</i>Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.com